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humancalculator said:
Glad you think so - hopefully the rest of the tale will be as interesting...
Kordo, Kurt_Steiner, stnylan, WhisperingDeath, Lyon_Man - thanks for the kind words...
I have played up to the point where the main plot point occurs, and for the most part it played itself out the way I imagined it would. The Allies are down to the United States and the rest of the American minors, while the Axis is 60 nations strong. Should be fun to play once I get up to the point where I can take over.
Have you released conquered lands as Axis minors? Is the intention to make it more difficult when fighting as USA & Company?
WhisperingDeath said:
Yes.
Also made sure that Fortress Europe is a veritable fortress, with every coastal territory from Istanbul to Archangelsk complete with a Level 5 Coastal Fort, and a series of land forts along key points - the Iberian mountains, the Alps, the Greek mountains and a string of Level 5 forts along the provinces bordering the eastern puppets - they are collectively known as the Eastern Wall...
Only those nations not in continental Europe (up to Estonia/Russia/Ukraine, which had their territories modified) have been released. A specific policy of local rule will be explained later on.
The goal of all this is to make it insanely hard for me to re-conquer the Third Reich...
With the UK and France gone, the USA has only those nations in the Americas as Allies, and its a fairly grim situation for the Americans and Guderian.
Good God, you're mad! You're going to need an ARMY of Guderians to win that kind of situation!
Or a few nukes could do just as well, I suppose.
Or a few nukes could do just as well, I suppose.
Shoot I don't think we Americans could have pulled that one off if it really happened I mean liberating 4 entire continents?? :wacko:
Still that just makes this an even more interesting AAR, keep up the good work
BTW is the AI you will be playing against capable of utilizing nukes?
I mean liberating 4 entire continents?? :wacko: Still that just makes this an even more interesting AAR, keep up the good work
BTW is the AI you will be playing against capable of utilizing nukes?
Lyon_Man said:Good God, you're mad! You're going to need an ARMY of Guderians to win that kind of situation!
Or a few nukes could do just as well, I suppose.
Oh, I have a plan...
Talon Karrde45 said:Shoot I don't think we Americans could have pulled that one off if it really happened
Still that just makes this an even more interesting AAR, keep up the good work
BTW is the AI you will be playing against capable of utilizing nukes?
Funny you should mention that - while I was preparing for the invasion of Britain, while my troops were deep into the jungles of Asia, the US nuked Berlin, and then Vienna about 9 months later...
As the Americans, he'll have the advantage of playing against an AI that will likely be surprised as to how big its empire is and thus unable to figure out what is going on. Unless dag's modded that, as well, in which case, the AI won't be that bad.
VladAntlerkov said:
The only things that were modded were territories given to minors, specifically four situations:
(a) Creation of Scandinavia - Germany retains the lands of Denmark, given their absolute vitality in controlling the Baltic, and Scandinavia is given the eastern Laplands from Russia
(b) Creation of the Ottomans - Germany retains Istanbul
(c) Creation of Ukraine - Germany retains the provinces west of the Dnieper (at least that it what I think it is called).
(d) Russia generally gets nerfed in favor of Estonia, Georgia and the eastern puppets.
So, essentially, Germany at the time of the plot switch looks like this:
This is keeping with a general policy that anything in continental Europe is German, and anything outside should be run by puppets.
When the switch happens, the German AI will bring all its troops home (before I switch, I will bring the bulk of them from Britain, leaving coastal garrisons only). Because of the Puppet Policy, the rest of the world is already garrisoned by others, though obviously there will be gaps as Egypt will most likely pull their troops from garrisoning the Sudan, etc. While I didn't build coastal forts along the coasts of Africa and India, as that would take too long, I made sure that Scandinavia was well protected with the same Level 5 coastal forts that ring Europe from Istanbul to Archangelsk.
Any invasion of The Reich will have to deal with a few chokepoints that should be well defended - the forts along the Iberian mountains, the Alps forts and the Eastern Wall, which stretches from the Baltic to the Black Sea.
Gibraltor will be a nightmare - full AA, full coastal, full land fort, well garrisoned.
You assume that the AI will leave the appropriate garrisons at the choke points and in Gibraltar (for example). Invariably, unless the units are "nailed" to the location, the AI has the annoying (and exploitable) tendency to shift troops haphazardly with the overall effect of decreasing their chances of surviving and defending. It can be most exasperating at times! :wacko:
WhisperingDeath said:
Very true, but in this mod I have noticed that the AI will leave troops at locations of forts, so that should be mitigated somewhat.
Full coastal forts for Gibraltar? I thought it had no beach , is this changed for this mod or am I just confused?
, is this changed for this mod or am I just confused?Talon Karrde45 said:Full coastal forts for Gibraltar? I thought it had no beach
You can build coastal forts in Gibraltor in this mod.
The Munich Group
Guderian would be a hell of a poker player, Escher thought as he studied the impassive face that stared back at him. Was Guderian mocking him? Escher asked himself. His panzers had conquered all of Africa and had chased the British out of the jungles of Asia and destroyed the bulk of the British Asian Expeditiary Force outside of Shanghai. He had successfully invaded Britain, becoming the first to do so in almost a thousand years. And yet that wasn’t enough for him? Obviously, it was enough for Ludwig Beck.
On June 27 1947, a massive bomb was detonated in the new Chancellery of the Reich Commonwealth in Hamburg, killing Hitler along with most of the members of his cabinet. Beck, the leader of the Munich Group, times the explosion with the start of the commonwealth meetings, so hundreds of party officials, key officials and delegations from the commonwealth nations were killed as well. For years Beck and his co-conspirators had argued that enough was enough, that the spilling the blood of German soldiers in far off lands that didn’t concern the Reich was insanity. That war for the sake of war was immoral and unconscionable. After the initial goals were met – lebensraum, security for the Reich, vengeance for the humiliation of Versailles, cleansing of Europe of undesirables, what was the point of pressing on when your enemy was in no shape to fight back? When Guderian’s panzers rolled into Sudan, Beck, von Salmuth, Glokke and others of the High Command of the Armed Forces started to question what the point of continuing was. When silence answered them, or when their complaints were dismissed or worse, they decided to act.
In the immediate aftermath, Beck and the others were able to seize almost complete power, that was how widespread the feeling was among the General Staff, especially after Berlin and then Vienna were obliterated by the United States after nuclear attacks. What they failed to count on though was how deeply the SS had wormed themselves into every crevice of the Reich. None of the main SS officers were at the Commonwealth meetings, since the SS were not that popular among the puppets, given their fanatical demands in terms of ethnic and genetic cleansings. Had they been there, the Munich Group would have succeeded and today would be a very different day.
“Would you have supported Beck?”
Guderian hesitated for a moment before answering. “In hindsight, I can see and appreciate his position and the position of the others, especially in the light of the horrific and despicable bombing of Berlin and Vienna, but I would not have supported him. My job was to destroy our enemies, and until the allies sued for peace, I would have continued in the capacity that the Fuhrer had entrusted in me.”
“Would you have marched on Berlin?”
No slight smile on his lips this time, Escher noted. Just a look that could set water on fire. “We will never know, will we?”
Heydrich’s minions rounded up every one of the conspirators and had them shot on sight. Thousands were arrested as the SS stretched out their hand and seized absolute power over the Third Reich, with Oscar von Hindenburg, the son of the legendary Field Marshal and President of pre-Nazi Germany, taking up office as the titular head of state. But everyone knew who was in charge – Himmler, Heydrich, Kaltenbrunner and Hanke, the four horsemen of the SS apocalypse. In the aftermath, the SS extracted a severe pound of flesh on the Heer, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine, with hundreds of high ranking officers found guilty of being part of the conspiracy. Actual evidence was irrelevant, as the Four Horseman merely disposed of any who had black marks besides their name in Heydrich’s little black book, or those whose voice was too prominent to be left alive. Von Rundstedt, Armin, Bock, Mannstein, Paulus, List – a virtual who’s who of the German High Command.
In the immediate aftermath of the purge – one that made Stalin’s pale in comparison, Winston Churchill gave a stirring speech from Washington, where he and the rest of the members of the British government in exile had relocated themselves after fleeing the British Isles:
"There was in Germany an opposition that was turning weaker and weaker because of the sacrifices and an exacerbated international policy, but which belongs to the greatest noble causes that has ever been plotted in the political history of a country. Those men fought exclusively motivated by the in-tranquility of their conscience. During all the time they were invisibles for us because they had to hide themselves. But when they have died, the resistance was seen. Their deaths do not serve to exculpate everything that went wrong in Germany. But their feats and sacrifices are the foundation of a new age. We expect that this heroic chapter of the interior history of Germany finds its just judgment."
When the lists went up, some managed to escape to American held Korea, but there was no safety there, as Escher was well aware. These men were all war criminals, all having participated in crimes against humanity and there would be no freedom or safety in America. Even those whose loyalty was above reproach were put on the lists. Men like von Leeb and Model and the biggest name of them all, Guderian. Irony is not without her sense of humor, Escher noted. The more Guderian won, the more lands he conquered, the quicker he was ushering in his own defeat.
“When you were putting together Fall Weiss, you and Beck got into an argument. What was the quote that he attributed to you?”
“That I was the cock who thought the sun had risen to hear me crow,” Guderian replied with a laugh.
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Wow...you just gutted the entire German military command. Will they have anyone of notable skill left to command?
Lyon_Man said:
Almost 10 years of continuous warfare has produced many fine leaders...
The top leadership left
The first of 2 pages worth of Skill 7 or greater commanders
The best of the Luftwaffe
Oh, and by the way, you might want to remember this one, as he will be featuring quite prominently soonish...
And those were just the ones who were hunted down and killed. It causes one to wonder about the numbers sent to "Siberia" or some other remote place under the Reich's control. Who will write this history's Gulag Archipelago?
Wow. How much skill did the dead ones have? I mean, those guys were even better than the NEW top command, I'm sure...poor dead generals.
Inconsistency: Göring is killed in the "bomb in the chancellery" event, but we have a picture of him surveying the damage from the explosion in the update before that.
edit: Unless the Munich Group killed him afterwards.
edit: Unless the Munich Group killed him afterwards.
VladAntlerkov said:
Fixed... thanks...
Changed the picture to match the events better - obviously Goring would have been there and been killed, given his prominence in the party.