Its fine to be gay but I need kids. I didn't think it was possible in this game...
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Its fine to be gay but I need kids. I didn't think it was possible in this game...
I would not say that being gay/lesbian is a bug. I suppose it was not common if at all in Greek and Roman cultures to accept homosexuality with their kings. If positive, they should adopt children as any other couple.
I would not say that being gay/lesbian is a bug. I suppose it was not common if at all in Greek and Roman cultures to accept homosexuality with their kings. If positive, they should adopt children as any other couple.
Comming from you, I take it as historically accurate. Thank you!Same sex relations vs same sex marriage are an entirely different topic though. Though for contexts sake I probably should have clarified my post a bit. But I'd be fine with characters having same sex lovers, could even create some interesting events, scandals and the likes. But they should still get married to the other sex and produce offspring - this was an important duty after all, especially to the part of society that make up our characters (the elite). Generally, marriage between same sex characters should never be allowed (but moddable, in case anyone wants to use this in a mod!) in the base game due to the importance of producing a heir to continue the family amongst the elites.
That doesn't mean ancient peoples did not have sexual and romantic relations outside of marriage - but modern conceptions of homosexuality are very different to ancient perceptions of same sex relationships. And in my opinion beyond same sex lovers and some associated events, I:R should just leave it at that. Especially X-sexual traits I hope wont make a return, since same sex relations in the ancient world did not automatically imply any kind of homo- or bisexuality.
Same sex relations vs same sex marriage are an entirely different topic though. Though for contexts sake I probably should have clarified my post a bit. But I'd be fine with characters having same sex lovers, could even create some interesting events, scandals and the likes. But they should still get married to the other sex and produce offspring - this was an important duty after all, especially to the part of society that make up our characters (the elite). Generally, marriage between same sex characters should never be allowed (but moddable, in case anyone wants to use this in a mod!) in the base game due to the importance of producing a heir to continue the family amongst the elites.
That doesn't mean ancient peoples did not have sexual and romantic relations outside of marriage - but modern conceptions of homosexuality are very different to ancient perceptions of same sex relationships. And in my opinion beyond same sex lovers and some associated events, I:R should just leave it at that. Especially X-sexual traits I hope wont make a return, since same sex relations in the ancient world did not automatically imply any kind of homo- or bisexuality.
I'm not sure about this, but marriage wasn't even that much institutionalized in the antiquity (ancient Rome) - it was more a personal commitment between two people (and their families, as especially in the nobility strategic marriages were important and Rome was a patriarchy, where the father of a family - head of the family- decided the faith on most topics for the family members).
Same sex marriage wasn't a thing, same sex relationships of course. Not sure about that, but I think they were somewhat accepted - not completely, but it wasn't like a sin in christianity to have same sex relationships.
Who came up with this strange idea?
Thanks for the book recommendation and the additional hint. I think, I know why it is necessary to add the name![]()
Didn’t one of the quickly assassinated emperors marry a guy. Elagabalus is said to have prostituted himself to men at the least.
Until Octavian / Gaius Caesar Augustus, The roman's really didn't see anything wrong with divorce? Or cheating on your wife with multiple lovers. And it was looked down upon, if you loved you wife. Maybe even enough to have your wife's father killed and wife exiled. (alexander severus)If I'd have to hazard a guess, I'd look towards Sectarian Judaism in the Second Temple period. The institute of divorce is probably as old as marriage, and is evidenced for at least two millennia before Christianity. Probably even more, I'm sure if you were to dig around a little, examples from Sumer would probably turn up. This includes Judaism, and we have examples of divorce clauses from Jewish texts from before and after this time.
To me it looks like someone decided to take the sacred texts a bit too literal, and decide to do away with millennia of marriage and legal tradition.
Until Octavian / Gaius Caesar Augustus, The roman's really didn't see anything wrong with divorce? Or cheating on your wife with multiple lovers. And it was looked down upon, if you loved you wife. Maybe even enough to have your wife's father killed and wife exiled. (alexander severus)
That's cool. But... relevance?Very often in games embodied unfulfilled fantasies in life. It's funny to have a gay character. But if we talk seriously about same-sex marriage, this topic is more and more on the radar. I decided to learn more about it and find more interesting information. I also decided for myself to analyze what kind of child grew up in a same-sex family and in a heteronormative family. There are many studies that have shown that children raised in same-sex families grow and develop normally, without any differences, than children raised in heteronormative families.
Elgabulus may have ventured into trans-sexuality as well. I can't remember the source. But, I translated something about a decade ago where he was said to have brought the "finest Persian surgeons" to make him "as a woman". Translate as you like....that could be what it sounds like.Didn’t one of the quickly assassinated emperors marry a guy. Elagabalus is said to have prostituted himself to men at the least.