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Hey, all. I started my first game as the Duchy of Barcelona and decided to be very active in the Reconquista. Long story short, within 50 years I basically ruled all of Hispania, as the King of Aragon, Leon, and Castille. My problem is that with Primogeniture I basically have a rebel brother or uncle, or even son, rise up and take half the kingdom to war. I'm considering switching to Gavelkind, but only if it ensures all three kingdoms go to the eldest. Will Gavelkind give all king titles to the primary heir or split it up ala Charlemagne?
 

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Each kingdom has its own succession laws. Gavelkind will give the primary (capital holding) to your eldest heir, then divide the rest evenly. You can set one kingdom to Gavelkind and keep the others Primogeniture if you like. This will allow your heir to more easily take back the lost titles via war.
 

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Well, would that really work with keeping stability? I don't want my various other sons demanding titles that I don't have, or giving them so many they become rivals. If I set them all the gavelkind, will they each individually set my eldest son as the primary?
 

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Well, would that really work with keeping stability? I don't want my various other sons demanding titles that I don't have, or giving them so many they become rivals. If I set them all the gavelkind, will they each individually set my eldest son as the primary?

I tend not to give titles to any son that is not my heir (under gavelkind). When my other sons ask for titles, I use the "you're not ready yet" option. This does not make them hate you. AFAIK, your primary holding goes to your heir in Gavelkind, but if you set all of your kingdoms to gavelkind, all of them will divide amongst your sons (as opposed to your heir inheriting 1 or 2 whole kingdoms, and only having the last one be divided among your sons). I really don't know how much this will reduce stability (I've never been in your situation). Elective is another good option, as Arcaul mentioned. I'd try that route before gavelkind anyday.
 

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Gavelkind is the Charlemagne law. Your eldest son will inherit the primary title, and any other kingdom titles will be divided among your sons. You wont get any rebellions, but it makes building a real empire more or less impossible.

Elective works fairly well if you can keep all of your vassals happy, but that's an incredibly tall order especially if you want to expand. Also i can never quite figure out why they vote for one person over another.

Seniority is quite underrated in my opinion, it just has the problem of never really getting a ruler for an extended period of time

I personally stick to primogeniture. Just remember to never ever give anyone in your close family duchy titles ever. If they're distant relatives in your dynasty, then that's ok, but sons, brothers, and uncles are a definite no. The only problem then is the landless sons prestige hit. I get around this by a) marrying your sons to foreign countesses and duchesses, that way they aren't in your court, so you don't get the prestige hit, or b) granting them a county title and then having someone else rule over them as duke. They can't rebel against you because they aren't your vassal.
 

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Gavelkind is the Charlemagne law. Your eldest son will inherit the primary title, and any other kingdom titles will be divided among your sons. You wont get any rebellions, but it makes building a real empire more or less impossible.

Elective works fairly well if you can keep all of your vassals happy, but that's an incredibly tall order especially if you want to expand. Also i can never quite figure out why they vote for one person over another.

Seniority is quite underrated in my opinion, it just has the problem of never really getting a ruler for an extended period of time

I personally stick to primogeniture. Just remember to never ever give anyone in your close family duchy titles ever. If they're distant relatives in your dynasty, then that's ok, but sons, brothers, and uncles are a definite no. The only problem then is the landless sons prestige hit. I get around this by a) marrying your sons to foreign countesses and duchesses, that way they aren't in your court, so you don't get the prestige hit, or b) granting them a county title and then having someone else rule over them as duke. They can't rebel against you because they aren't your vassal.

I guess I'm going to have to stick with Primogeniture. I've ended up with a ton of powerful vassals since I can't hold all the tons of new lands I'm conquering, sans rulers since they're Muslims. But, perhaps I should stop making my sons Dukes. In hindsight, that's probably the best solution. There's still the problem of other vassals revolting on succession, but I'm considering lowering my crown authority to loosen them up a bit.