Have you seen the other thread too?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...s-probably-because-of-ai-pathfinding.1135694/
It seems there really is a massive performance improvement to be gained by fixing the pathfinding algorithm. Good luck.
Gateways+ trade routes = massive performance drop
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It seems there really is a massive performance improvement to be gained by fixing the pathfinding algorithm. Good luck.
I did the same... built like 20 gateways in all my systems with tradeports... but I didn't suffer the performance issues.
Maybe because I always manually assigned the trade routes from the trade port to my home system... rather than letting it do that automatically.
The only real performance issues I am suffering from are:
1) Micro-stuttering when scrolling in midgame (but that has been reported several times already by others as well)
2) Extreme lag in the Resettlement screen once planets have 80+ pops. On my Ecunomopolis with 280 pops it takes like 30 seconds to scroll the list due to lag and another 30 before it registers the click to transfer a pop and another 30 seconds to register the click to close the window.
Maybe because I always manually assigned the trade routes from the trade port to my home system... rather than letting it do that automatically.
The only real performance issues I am suffering from are:
1) Micro-stuttering when scrolling in midgame (but that has been reported several times already by others as well)
2) Extreme lag in the Resettlement screen once planets have 80+ pops. On my Ecunomopolis with 280 pops it takes like 30 seconds to scroll the list due to lag and another 30 before it registers the click to transfer a pop and another 30 seconds to register the click to close the window.
I have written about this in more detail here, but to make it short, I tested this by opening a couple of gateways, checking performance, then manually deleting every gateway in the galaxy and check performance again.
With gateways, stuttering was heavy, without gateways, stuttering was severely decreased. It's still there, but it got much better.
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Dang it, I am just researching Gateway tech now, since my megacorp is so utterly hemmed it (and I stupidly made it pacifist)....
Btw I can see now why it may cause horrendous lag to some people. The problem is the projection range of trade hubs/hangars.
If you have a lot of gate ways then the starbases will project their collection/protection range even through the gateway to systems on the other side. If you have a lot of Gateways and large collection ranges then the starbases's projection ranges begin to overlap and stack on top of each other with each added gateway... Bye bye pirates even if the trade routes wouldn't go through the gateways. xD
It may be an idea to scrap all the starbases on the other side and let your home system's trade hub do all the job on its own using it's projection range through the gateways distributed all over the galaxy.
I like that idea... but I fear there is a nerf incoming once the devs figure it out.
On the star base click on trade routes... and to select the target click right on the target starbase... it then should draw a route to that starbase, if one already exits it cancels the route.
If you have a lot of gate ways then the starbases will project their collection/protection range even through the gateway to systems on the other side. If you have a lot of Gateways and large collection ranges then the starbases's projection ranges begin to overlap and stack on top of each other with each added gateway... Bye bye pirates even if the trade routes wouldn't go through the gateways. xD
It may be an idea to scrap all the starbases on the other side and let your home system's trade hub do all the job on its own using it's projection range through the gateways distributed all over the galaxy.
I like that idea... but I fear there is a nerf incoming once the devs figure it out.
On the star base click on trade routes... and to select the target click right on the target starbase... it then should draw a route to that starbase, if one already exits it cancels the route.
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I suspected my troubles might be related to this. Good to see it's being looked into.
And here I was wondering why the Prethoryn obliterating every trade node in my (wormhole linked) galaxy was speeding up the game...
At first I thought it was because pops were being removed. But nope; the Prethoryn can't actually clear planets as of 2.2 (haven't tested with the Beta).
Then after I started rebuilding (Including rebuilding wormhole trading outposts...), performance dropped again..
At first I thought it was because pops were being removed. But nope; the Prethoryn can't actually clear planets as of 2.2 (haven't tested with the Beta).
Then after I started rebuilding (Including rebuilding wormhole trading outposts...), performance dropped again..
I wonder if it could also have any thing to do with another bug I encountered in which my ships start trying to path through wormholes and gateways as soon as I get the tech but before I explore or repair them.
I can confirm I have the exact same issue with gateways. I tried first to disable my trade notes, then my offworld trading companies, then my stations but to little avail, since the game is still extremely laggy. Wish I hadn't built any manual gateways (the game seems to have no problem with the preset generated gateways as far as I could tell) so I don't lose my Ironman save...
Oh well, there goes the galaxy.
Oh well, there goes the galaxy.
Even though I'm playing on an archaic laptop that barely handles minimum spec, I didn't have this problem despite building agate way in every inhabited system (about 38 of them). I also had gateways at x2.0 and the AI was building a lot of them as well.
That said, I manually assigned all my trade routes, perhaps circumventing the auto-distance calculations?
Could be a temporary fix for people experiencing the problem in an ongoing game.
That said, I manually assigned all my trade routes, perhaps circumventing the auto-distance calculations?
Could be a temporary fix for people experiencing the problem in an ongoing game.
+1
They figured that "TV" actually stands for "time value"(your processor time collected by game process and transformed into in-game goodies), not "trade value", and decided to help you save your time
to me, it sounds like trade is making arbitrary distance calculations that should be saved and not redone. gateways are a problem with pathfinding because every gate has access to every other gate, which will make pathfinding start polling across the galaxy. if trade on it's own is producing lag, then gates will exasperate it. i wonder what their pathfinding coe looks like, is it A* or something more crude.
edit: does anyone know if starbase piracy protection extends through gates? this may also be a big performance eater
it does most certainly. Trade protection range from starbases functions the same as trade collection range