Gamespy review

[Jim Cobb]

In my games Denmark always annihilates Prussia Power to the danes!!!

P.S. Anyone who have some links to good sites where I can read reviews of games, I used to read gamespy's review but after reading that review about Victoria, then that is over.

Well, since you asked, www.wargamer.com

Our reviews show up later than others because we take a lot of time to play the games. Also, the second draft is circulated to all writers for comments. Fairly polished work before it goes up.

 

[Jim Cobb]

You must be kidding? You'd give it that despite the partisan issues, the army sizes, Austria's doubled population, the colonization AI and colonization in general, the weird ahistorical historical events (Zollverein and NGF anyone?), the British AI, and all the other problems people know about?

I'd give it at best 6/10, maybe dropping to 5/10 after the 1.02 patch.

Comments like this show the inadequacy of quantification. I'll say 7.9/10 or 81/100. Happy now, bunky?

 

[unmerged(12819)]

Well, since you asked, www.wargamer.com

Our reviews show up later than others because we take a lot of time to play the games. Also, the second draft is circulated to all writers for comments. Fairly polished work before it goes up.

Reviews are excellent and very detailed, indeed. Now I know where to go when the next strategy title has been released

(Although I'm surprised that you'd give this game about 8/10 if you had to use a numerical rating, since I got a little different impression from the review)

 

[Jim Cobb]

Reviews are excellent and very detailed, indeed. Now I know where to go when the next strategy title has been released

(Although I'm surprised that you'd give this game about 8/10 if you had to use a numerical rating, since I got a little different impression from the review)

That's why I don't like ratings. Is 8/10 better or worse than my summary? I have no idea myself.

 

[unmerged(22442)]

This review , in board game terms, is like comparing an Avalon Hill game (quite strategic and involved and, ironically, distributors of the board game version of Civilization) to a Milton Bradley game such as Monopoly.

I don't personally read any reviews posted by GameSpy unless I'm looking into a 1st or 3rd person on-line shooter game as I fear (and with good reason) that the review will be biased in some way.

Keep up the good work Paradox!

Zed

 

[unmerged(3921)]

In my experience the game does crash repeatedly when you manipulate small POPs. It crashes sometimes during peace negotiations. But I have also gone through an entire GC with only a single CTD. Just depends what you are doing.

 

[JScott991]

The partisans are bugged my friend. They spawn as regular units and they can be reinforced. They are not WaD, to use a silly abbreviation.

Austria's population is bugged. Derek Pullem posted that the POP file was not complete when 1.02 was complete. That's not WaD.

Army sizes might be a "feature", but I'd be surprised if future patches don't bring them down more. 400 or 500 Chinese irregulars running around probably isn't not WaD, but that's debatable I guess.

The English sitting close to 1M men in London probably is a bug, dont' you think?

I dont' think I'm criticizing popular game features by erroneously calling them bugs.

Now I have to give my two cents.

What exactly are you calling bugs??? He was saying he enjoys the partisan, army size, etc. So there are a lot of partisans in the game, so there are big armies in the game. Are those bugs???

In any other games, it would be called gameplay. Just because it is something that you do not enjoy does not make it a bug. Especially when somebody else happens to enjoy it!

 

[SirGrotius]

Victoria Era? Did he mean "Victorian Era?"

 

[unmerged(12680)]

Odd review that... However, I must unwillingly support the reviewer, because he DID actually find the pause-key:

For instance, attempting to command a major nation like England or France is so difficult that you'll need to pause the game continually just to make sure that you don't overlook anything.

See? But overall a crappy review. Not that I'd expect to hear anything else about a complex strategy game from Gamyspew...

 

[unmerged(17481)]

CTD's issue stops after disabling certain programs...

This probably has been mentioned but I get no CTD's after I disable any all of my antivirus and internet security protection. I have the American version and was crashing hourly. Once you get rid of all the mem res's she runs clean.

 

[unmerged(17324)]

Yes, I'm happy to see another HONEST review of Victoria from one of the well known professional reviewers. The real HONEST reviews are popping up all over the place and the only "fan(atic)" reviews are still here at the official forum only, which is to be expected, nobody wants their apples to be considered ROTTEN or SOUR. heh It's a shame Vic is such a failure, perhaps Crusaders will be better, but, I doubt it! hehe

 

[Darkrenown]

Yes, I'm happy to see another HONEST review of Victoria from one of the well known professional reviewers. The real HONEST reviews are popping up all over the place and the only "fan(atic)" reviews are still here at the official forum only, which is to be expected, nobody wants their apples to be considered ROTTEN or SOUR. heh It's a shame Vic is such a failure, perhaps Crusaders will be better, but, I doubt it! hehe

I could show you the good reviews from wargamer etc. but you're just a troll so I can't be bothered.

 

[unmerged(21254)]

You shouldnt have to do all this messing around to get the game to work though. It should just work first time. If Victoria is anything as shoddy as HOI then i am going to be very dissapointed.

 

[MAlexander06]

Victoria definately works just fine. The main point of contention, it seems, is how the economic model works. But it's still completely playable, I'm a newbie at this game and haven't found it that difficult after learning a bit about it.

 

[unmerged(11929)]

Austria's population is bugged. Derek Pullem posted that the POP file was not complete when 1.02 was complete. That's not WaD.

The English sitting close to 1M men in London probably is a bug, dont' you think?

Oh, Lordy. I am now in complete agreement. This game is unplayable!

Don't you think that's going a tad into details?

 

[unmerged(12819)]

That's why I don't like ratings. Is 8/10 better or worse than my summary? I have no idea myself.

I'n my opinion a lot better.
First you have a few pages of long detailed, but mainly descriptive paragraphs.. explaining how everything is set up in the game. which is good, because it's kinda rare to see such detailed and professional reviews. but in the end you use words like "plagued with bugs", "inexcusable" and you only recomment the game to the SERIOUS students of the time period or fans of EU2.. which I agree with

so that's why I just thought you'd give it 4 or 5/10

this game is so frustrating that I went back to HoI. well, it's still a paradox game .. but I hope they go back to basics with their next release

 

[unmerged(13520)]

Yes, I'm happy to see another HONEST review of Victoria from one of the well known professional reviewers. The real HONEST reviews are popping up all over the place and the only "fan(atic)" reviews are still here at the official forum only

I didn't know that anyone who didn't subscribe to the same "truths" and tastes as others wasn't being "honest".

 

[unmerged(11748)]

It's unfortunate that so many people have had many CTD's. After playing a full CG with argentina - about 4 hrs per sitting - I had a grand total of ONE CTD. It seems to me a much more stable game than HOI was on the outset.

I am currently using 1.01 because of the different reviews of 1.02, usually there aren't this many negative reviews of a patch, and I didn't want to cancel my current game.

When I initally installed Victoria, I had a few CTD's. But I uninstalled the game, tried again and it was fine.

Can't wait until 1.03, however.

DR

 

[unmerged(12819)]

I didn't know that anyone who didn't subscribe to the same "truths" and tastes as others wasn't being "honest".

Dont you just hate dishonest people who don't agree with you that BigMac IS the best meal in the world ;-)

 

[Jim Cobb]

I'n my opinion a lot better.
First you have a few pages of long detailed, but mainly descriptive paragraphs.. explaining how everything is set up in the game. which is good, because it's kinda rare to see such detailed and professional reviews. but in the end you use words like "plagued with bugs", "inexcusable" and you only recomment the game to the SERIOUS students of the time period or fans of EU2.. which I agree with

so that's why I just thought you'd give it 4 or 5/10

this game is so frustrating that I went back to HoI. well, it's still a paradox game .. but I hope they go back to basics with their next release

I had to give your post some thought. The reason why I'd give it a 8/10 reflects why I don't like ratings. Anybody who wasn't a serious gamer to begin with would have been warned off already by the text, assuming they read it instead of only looking at the ratings. The players who actually play games like Paradox's and are willing to take a chance would see 8/10 as a sign the game has problems but is still pretty good. Anything below 7 is a complete wave-off to all gamers.