Gamebook Crusader Kings: Chronicles Available Now!
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Hmm, thanks. There's got to be something wrong with my activation then.
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It only shows if you don't have the gamebook activated.
I also just confirmed that if you bypass the launcher, the gamebook doesn't activate. So if you have launch options that disable the PDX launcher, you need to remove them and use the launcher to activate your gamebook.
We will look into that ASAP.
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I use the CK2 launcher to get into the game, so at least for me it's not that.
OK, so I got it to work by uninstalling the gamebook from my IOS device, reinstalling, and logging in all over again within the app, then restarting CK2 (again logging out and logging in). The banner ad above the menu bar no longer appears, and the song "Guy de Roses Quandary" now plays. If anyone has this same problem, try these steps!
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Now, that is super annoying. I need to find a potato android phone in order to even just buy it and get rid out of this stupid ad in-game.
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Okay, potato phone isn't working because it's too old, so I used emulator in order to get it.
Had a nice experience with Google services quality, trying to figure out why it is failing authentication on a linked account only to learn half an hour ago that it is normal behavior and I need to wipe account and re-link it again.
In the end I've managed to get it, hope this will cut the time for whoever will bother with emulator route.
I really don't appreciate the need of other devices in order to unlock some content/remove ads. This is a PC game, why the hell I need to have some other device? 8\
Had a nice experience with Google services quality, trying to figure out why it is failing authentication on a linked account only to learn half an hour ago that it is normal behavior and I need to wipe account and re-link it again.
In the end I've managed to get it, hope this will cut the time for whoever will bother with emulator route.
I really don't appreciate the need of other devices in order to unlock some content/remove ads. This is a PC game, why the hell I need to have some other device? 8\
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The fact this even exists is troubling. I bought the gamebook because <3 (and I've worked so hard to get rid of that ingame ad until now), but if you don't care about the gamebook / don't have a device that can run it at all this amounts to selling one music track and two events for 4£.
The value just isn't there, this seems to be targeting people who would pay anything to get the complete experience - leaving everyone else with a slightly incomplete game.
On the upside, there may well only be the one app and this might not happen again. If this is to be a recurring thing where tiny bits of content are "hidden" in a highly priced separate app for games like HoI, CK, EU, V3, etc. then that's definitely concerning.
Proposed solutions (short of never doing this again):
- Add more value to the gamebook going forward (there are only a few expansions to go, add a song and a couple of events for each DLC and the value should be there soon enough. An ongoing deal where small bits of content are added every few months is more easy to stomach)
- Make the gamebook content time limited (either paid or free to PC after an amount of time)
- Make the gamebook content cosmetic instead. Music is cosmetic, which is good, unit packs would be too. Events and portraits I would personally consider to be too central to gameplay to lock people out from.
The value just isn't there, this seems to be targeting people who would pay anything to get the complete experience - leaving everyone else with a slightly incomplete game.
On the upside, there may well only be the one app and this might not happen again. If this is to be a recurring thing where tiny bits of content are "hidden" in a highly priced separate app for games like HoI, CK, EU, V3, etc. then that's definitely concerning.
Proposed solutions (short of never doing this again):
- Add more value to the gamebook going forward (there are only a few expansions to go, add a song and a couple of events for each DLC and the value should be there soon enough. An ongoing deal where small bits of content are added every few months is more easy to stomach)
- Make the gamebook content time limited (either paid or free to PC after an amount of time)
- Make the gamebook content cosmetic instead. Music is cosmetic, which is good, unit packs would be too. Events and portraits I would personally consider to be too central to gameplay to lock people out from.
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I really dislike having content for a game being dependent upon the purchase of another game, the developer Amplitude did it for Endless Legend and Dungeon of the Endless and it put me off buying DLC from them until they 'unlocked' the extra race for everyone, I just didn't feel like playing an incomplete game.
I know this is extra content that does not take away from the CK2 experience and all the accompanying DLC purchased, but in the end I don't have as complete a game as I could.
Before, the PDS policy was to give players a choice in what content they wanted to pay for; this is the exact opposite, even if I want to I can't get it. This is why I don't have cable, I'm not going to pay for 300+ channels when I only want to watch 3 or 4 of them.
No I'm not going to use an emulator or whatever, I shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to spend money on your products.
I hope this will be made available for everyone on Steam later either at a cost or for free, or this is going to set a very bad precedent; already many people commented they only got the gamebook to get the PC game content, but the app should be able to stand on it's own.
I know this is extra content that does not take away from the CK2 experience and all the accompanying DLC purchased, but in the end I don't have as complete a game as I could.
Before, the PDS policy was to give players a choice in what content they wanted to pay for; this is the exact opposite, even if I want to I can't get it. This is why I don't have cable, I'm not going to pay for 300+ channels when I only want to watch 3 or 4 of them.
No I'm not going to use an emulator or whatever, I shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to spend money on your products.
I hope this will be made available for everyone on Steam later either at a cost or for free, or this is going to set a very bad precedent; already many people commented they only got the gamebook to get the PC game content, but the app should be able to stand on it's own.
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Alright, I've had some more time to think about this and it's time to bring out the big guns. Beware ye of feeble heart.
This cross promotion from the app to the game can really only go two ways. One, you want people to buy the app, then go to CK2, or two, you want people to come from CK2 to the app (for the DLC). I'll give 1 a fair shake before getting to the meat of 2.
Could you consider the content a good incentive for a mobile user to check out the game? Considering one of the two events needs the newest DLC to even work this seems doubtful. If this was about making people aware of the game then this content would be unnecessary, making them interested should be enough, instead of promising a piece of music and 1/2 events. If I were to suggest a real, fair, incentive, I would say offer a free copy of an older DLC like The Old Gods. You get the mobile crowd interested with a real incentive, you don't lose out on much money-wise since it's been on sale for less, and there's no feeling of having content being taken out of reach.
Now 2, unfortunately, this move hits a certain subsection of the fan base the most - the hardcore fans. These are the ones who will see the ad since they have the rest of the DLC, they are the ones who snapped up every part of the expansion on release day since they wanted the most up to date and complete version of the game. They likely won't see this to be a good thing, and will probably feel slighted considering they just spent ~15£ and are now expected to spend ~4£ more if they want to actually have everything. This is some horse-armor tier stuff.
Suddenly we have the group of customers that will buy all your products on day one at full price no questions asked feeling ripped off, and rightfully so. This content isn't worth 4£, it's probably worth closer to 0.79£, and only that because of the music. Alienating this portion of the fan base cannot possibly be worth whatever it was hoped the app crossover would achieve.
Now, I'm fully prepared to give Paradox the benefit of the doubt here, and assume this was either not completely thought through or they genuinely didn't think it was a big deal. Actions in the past like revoking the Stellaris / Hoi 4 sign up campaign exclusivity shows they respect that players want their complete game and that they realise that certain exclusivity isn't healthy. I just want to throw my hat in the ring before this is taken further, since there really is no ceiling to the magic that is second degree price discrimination.
This cross promotion from the app to the game can really only go two ways. One, you want people to buy the app, then go to CK2, or two, you want people to come from CK2 to the app (for the DLC). I'll give 1 a fair shake before getting to the meat of 2.
Could you consider the content a good incentive for a mobile user to check out the game? Considering one of the two events needs the newest DLC to even work this seems doubtful. If this was about making people aware of the game then this content would be unnecessary, making them interested should be enough, instead of promising a piece of music and 1/2 events. If I were to suggest a real, fair, incentive, I would say offer a free copy of an older DLC like The Old Gods. You get the mobile crowd interested with a real incentive, you don't lose out on much money-wise since it's been on sale for less, and there's no feeling of having content being taken out of reach.
Now 2, unfortunately, this move hits a certain subsection of the fan base the most - the hardcore fans. These are the ones who will see the ad since they have the rest of the DLC, they are the ones who snapped up every part of the expansion on release day since they wanted the most up to date and complete version of the game. They likely won't see this to be a good thing, and will probably feel slighted considering they just spent ~15£ and are now expected to spend ~4£ more if they want to actually have everything. This is some horse-armor tier stuff.
Suddenly we have the group of customers that will buy all your products on day one at full price no questions asked feeling ripped off, and rightfully so. This content isn't worth 4£, it's probably worth closer to 0.79£, and only that because of the music. Alienating this portion of the fan base cannot possibly be worth whatever it was hoped the app crossover would achieve.
Now, I'm fully prepared to give Paradox the benefit of the doubt here, and assume this was either not completely thought through or they genuinely didn't think it was a big deal. Actions in the past like revoking the Stellaris / Hoi 4 sign up campaign exclusivity shows they respect that players want their complete game and that they realise that certain exclusivity isn't healthy. I just want to throw my hat in the ring before this is taken further, since there really is no ceiling to the magic that is second degree price discrimination.
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Comparing the gamebook to sign up campaign stuff is like comparing apples and oranges. Sign up bonuses weren't available for purchase and Paradox didn't have any intention to make them available. People were annoyed, because you couldn't buy them.
The gamebook companion app however isn't exclusive* and you can buy it if you like. You complain that you don't get enough content, but I guess that the app alone is worth few Euros**. If some of this content doesn't please you, then it is your personal decision if you consider that the other content has enough value to justify the purchase or not. AFAIK the app and main game content are thematically connected, which would make selling them separately silly.
And considering that I have paid the full price, I would be mightily annoyed if Paradox would give away paid content for free.
*In this day and age most people have Android or Apple devices and even if you don't have you can always use emulator.
**While I have it, I haven't played it yet. So I can't say for certain if it is worth the money. But I think that I'll give it a try next time I'm on a boring flight.
I feel that people are making a bigger deal out of this than necessary.
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I wasn't comparing the exclusivity of this and the signup campaign, I was calling attention to the fact that the freeing up of the content from the signup campaign was due to Paradox's realization that locking away content (permanently or behind an unreasonably high paywall doesn't matter) would just end up annoying their playerbase.
I haven't played it either, but I have played the one they did for HoI4, and I've taken a look at the store reviews. The general sentiment seems to be that the app is already overpriced - and that's if you are actually interested in the app and not just the DLC.
The name of the music is a connection, otherwise I haven't played the game as I said, so I don't know whether either event chain - one being the player mourning the loss of a friend or family member to the Black Death and the other being them falling in love with their liege's wife - relates to the story.
I paid full price too and wouldn't care if Paradox gave this away for free. Since the files were included in the patch I have determined it's possible to get them working anyway (trying to avoid the ire of the mods here). Despite this, I still went ahead and bought the DLC, since until now the respect Paradox has treated their customers with has more than justified treating them with respect back. To be clear, I voluntarily paid that money to further support the developers.
EDIT: Just thought to add this, the content wouldn't need to be free, but it would have to be offered at a suitably low price point. They sell packs of music for under 2£, so one piece of music + 2 event chains could go for 0.79£, though even that might be on the expensive side tbh. At that point you can consider it as being "75% off" while you got it full price if it makes you feel better.
My issue here is that this practice might go on, which is something I cannot support, and secondly that other players are now missing out. Call it timed exclusivity if you want, pay for the app and get it, say, 6 months early sound good?
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so my phone popped up a notification today (finally) saying "thanks for purchasing/etc etc, youve unlocked new events"
but even trying the logging on/off, reinstalling/relogging the game book, restarting steam, EVERYTHING
according to the paradox launcher, i dont have "DLC game_book" thats required for the events, and the song isnt in any of the soundtrack files
soooo, yeah, i think something is messed up with my gamebook registration :/
but even trying the logging on/off, reinstalling/relogging the game book, restarting steam, EVERYTHING
according to the paradox launcher, i dont have "DLC game_book" thats required for the events, and the song isnt in any of the soundtrack files
soooo, yeah, i think something is messed up with my gamebook registration :/
There is no DLC in the launcher for this one. The soundtrack is in the gamebook folder in the main folder. Use the next song button to check if the new song is in the game.
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But make sure the "Context Sensitive Music" option is off in the settings or it won't show up. There's some issues with the music player since the latest patch.
You MUST be logged in PDX accaunt in launcher before start game. If u logged - I can see content activated. If u log out - content will be turned off.
And I like this Idea. This is good against piracy. Well done!
U can check it in console.
event GBC.1
event GBC.199
event GBC.1
event GBC.199
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So I think I got one of the events and i really really enjoyed it. I also really like the song that comes with this.
I accidentally shot my love in the face and she died of an infection in her eye the next day.
Boy do things like this make me sad that I do not own a smart phone...
I'm still not getting one.
I'm still not getting one.
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