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So me and a friend has been playing this save for a few days, and for some reason, all of the sudden my game starts lacking and stuttering insanely. Fraps says that I go from 30-40 FPS (late game, we have played for about 300 years) to 3-6. However its much worse then that, I can't do anything and its like the game is frozen with intermediate updates.

My friend doesn't experience this at all though. I am the host.

My specs:

Mobo: MSI Z97 Mpower
CPU: Core i7 4790K
GPU: GTX 970
RAM: 16 GB Corsair Vengeance

Does anyone have any ideas on why this could be happening, and how to fix it?
 

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Does it change if he is host?

There is a known situation that can occur in the late game, if there's an empire that spans half the map or more, and it explodes in rebellion or civil war - the game just can't cope with the huge increase in units on the map. Is that the case here?
 

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I've also had this problem today, first time I've had an actual game performance problem with CKII. In a similar situation too but a singleplayer game, 400 years in. started from the Charlemagne bookmark (earliest possible).

Playing as the Emperor of Northumbria (lol I know), I got an event saying that there was a Jihad for Sicily by the Abbasid Caliphate, after that I let it run for a month or so in-game, and there is a lot of visual (no audio) stuttering going on, that its to the point where its unplayable. However I manage to pause the game after a few tries and then everything goes back to normal until I unpause.

Is this because the AI for the Abbasids are having trouble trying to find a route to Sicily? the Abbasids are massive in my game, control almost all of North Africa, control the entire Middle East and parts of lower Russia, and have push the Byzantium Empire out of Greece and Turkey.
I don't see why this should happen though, been playing for 2 years (RL) without this kind of problem.
 
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Well, as I said, the only known situation that causes this is massive numbers of troops suddenly spawning, which is usually due to a civil war or large rebellion. If the Abbasids are in that situation, that would explain it. There's really nothing that can be done other than edit the excessive troops/rebels out of the game file.
 

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Well, as I said, the only known situation that causes this is massive numbers of troops suddenly spawning, which is usually due to a civil war or large rebellion. If the Abbasids are in that situation, that would explain it. There's really nothing that can be done other than edit the excessive troops/rebels out of the game file.

Well they need their manpower/levies nerf'd from the beginning then to prevent the AI becoming overly powerful, I'm playing on Normal difficulty too. They aren't in civil war or rebellion they are on conquest. I'll give the game another shot just now, hopefully this is just a temporary issue but the game is crawling, takes 5 seconds to get through a day on the slowest speed. To be honest I have noticed rebellions spawning more frequently with Charlemagne, not just me, but the AI Kingdoms too, what's up with that? I also noticed another thread pop up with this issue. It's like the algorithms in the game aren't powerful enough to crunch the numbers the Abbasids are producing which means its a problem that is worth looking at. To be told the "game can't cope" is just silly, because then your game is broken, and that's not the way of Paradox :p
 

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Well, I can look at your machine's stuff here, but if you're convinced this is a bug then Bug Reports is the place for it ....
 

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Well, I can look at your machine's stuff here, but if you're convinced this is a bug then Bug Reports is the place for it ....
Oh apologies thought the bug reports were in this sub-forum, my bad. I'll have another go and see what's what. Not convinced this is a local problem to me, but anyways thanks for your help!
 

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Hi again, as it seems this issue is being reported more frequently now, however I did discover the source of my problem.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/545263957662097013/96C53AF9F29A58EE22A40E0F260EAC8B7785926E/

Turns out Lollard Heresies were spawning all over Europe and in their hundreds and thousands! In that screenshot alone, you can see 20,000 lollards. And you may notice the same thing is happening in France and to the East of my Kingdom. That, combined with Abbasid's Jihad, must of slowed the game down to a crawl.

The problem is now resolved, I gave it 7 years to fix itself and deal with the lollards of course as did the other Kings.
So perhaps the Lollards need toned down, I had 5 uprisings in 10 years, all spawn an average of 5000 man hosts.