Game only lags through steam

[Peko?]

There should be a non-steam mod folder (in the same folder you find your save folder IIRC). Extract the steam mods and put them there instead.
I saw no improvement when I tried this so don't expect too much.

 

[AndrewT]

i was merely trying to confirm on how to get it to work using this method. I understood how to get this method to work, i was just unsure on how to do it so the game also runs the mod with it, which i got to work but it didn't seem to improve anything and since everyone (with or without mods) had going by the comments great results i was wondering if its the mod i'm using or if i might have done something wrong.

Again, please contact the mod author for these matters. If you register your game here you'll also see the User Mods forum for this game, which may also be able to help you. Thank you.

 

[Fosite]

Again, please contact the mod author for these matters. If you register your game here you'll also see the User Mods forum for this game, which may also be able to help you. Thank you.

I tried to sync my game many times and i can't get it to work for some reason or a other.

There should be a non-steam mod folder (in the same folder you find your save folder IIRC). Extract the steam mods and put them there instead.
I saw no improvement when I tried this so don't expect too much.

Thank you, unfortunately this doesn't seem to no mater if i move it to the workshop folder their the mod folder or even extract the files directly into the mod folder. I guess ill just have to deal with the slowing down of the game.

 

[AndrewT]

I tried to sync my game many times and i can't get it to work for some reason or a other.

Go into
https://accounts.paradoxplaza.com/settings
and connect to your Steam account, then
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?account/owneditems
and hit Sync Owned Items.

 

[Scottbert]

Tried this today. My current game, a late-game tiny galaxy with 75k fleet power was running at about 3 days/sec. Signed out of my Paradox account, that jumped to 4-5 days/sec. Without Steam it jumped to 5-6 days/sec. Wow!

Edit: Tabbed out, did some other stuff, came back to Stellaris, and it was back to 3 days/sec

 

[Sayle]

Progressively:
Base month time: 10.8 seconds.
Without steam overlay: 11 seconds.
Logged out from PDOX: 10.3 seconds.
Launched from exe: 10.3 seconds.
Launched as administrator: 10.2 seconds.

To me at least there appears to be no material difference.

 

[g4borg]

hm, since online games disconnect if steam powers down (which was quite visible a few days ago, when suddenly all running games disappeared when steam restarted its servers), could it be some connectivity issue to the steam service causing this?

it would explain why it might not be the hardware, but the connection

which also brings me to the plea of decoupling steam handling in a way, that people playing a game dont get disconnected just because steam goes offline...

 

[Jiro the Fluffy Raptor]

I've attempted to start the game from the Steam folder for Stellaris, because that's the only place I can find a .exe. Obviously, I'm using Windows Explorer. I'm playing vanilla 1.9.1, so I'm using Steam's beta function. So far I've tried multiple times and the trick isn't improving performance for me at all. Is there another .exe or folder location I should be aware of?

 

[Jiro the Fluffy Raptor]

Oh and I should mention that I've tried this both with and without mods. Neither give any improvement.

sorry for the double post, but I thought I would give this bump some purpose

 

[g4borg]

no, jiro, that is precisely how you start the game without loading steam.
you can after that direct join other games.
however, if it did not bring you any upsides, your issues probably have nothing to do with steam.

the issues you can have with steam is the steam lobby, used for game search and connection to the host or the steam overlay. it is however a separate step and connection.
if you start the game without steam, naturally you have no server browser, you can however direct join other games, but might not be able to get into games where the host is behind a firewall.

imagine steam to be a bridge you got to cross to get to the other game, without steam you have to swim. unfortunately if you connect by steam, a separate connection to that service is being kept alive, which is probably why some people have issues with it (e.g. if their internet is not that good), or as said its just about the overlay.

 

[Jiro the Fluffy Raptor]

no, jiro, that is precisely how you start the game without loading steam.
you can after that direct join other games.
however, if it did not bring you any upsides, your issues probably have nothing to do with steam.

the issues you can have with steam is the steam lobby, used for game search and connection to the host or the steam overlay. it is however a separate step and connection.
if you start the game without steam, naturally you have no server browser, you can however direct join other games, but might not be able to get into games where the host is behind a firewall.

imagine steam to be a bridge you got to cross to get to the other game, without steam you have to swim. unfortunately if you connect by steam, a separate connection to that service is being kept alive, which is probably why some people have issues with it (e.g. if their internet is not that good), or as said its just about the overlay.

You say my issues probably have nothing to do with Steam? What do you think is the cause, then?

 

[Kimsemus]

FWIW, I disabled the PDX login on the launcher, and I noticed a difference late game.

I'm grateful for the others posting in this thread, it doesn't seem like results are consistent but this DOES seem to help.

Oh well, here's hoping for better optimization as time goes on.

 

[Jiro the Fluffy Raptor]

I also made sure I'm not logged in to Paradox, along those lines. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong to the point that this trick doesn't work at all for me.

Maybe it does just only work with certain machines.

 

[g4borg]

Maybe it does just only work with certain machines.

i have no idea what specs you use on your machine. do you have performance issues if you play solo games, or load the games which lag in solo mode? because if yes, it might be your cpu or memory bottlenecking you.

it's not like performance is just a question of configuration.

if you play network games, and it lags, make sure it is not your host lagging, or another player, or stuff like using wireless connection, background services, etc. - you do have to rule out the usual suspects first.

 

[Jiro the Fluffy Raptor]

Yep, these issues are happening with solo games as well as multiplayer ones. My CPU is quite powerful, so I believe it's my memory bottlenecking me. I only have 8GB of RAM, and I have yet to blow out my heat sinks so I think overheating might be causing additional bottlenecking.

At that point I suppose it's just a hardware issue and not a software issue. Thanks for the help anyway, though.

 

[g4borg]

Yep, these issues are happening with solo games as well as multiplayer ones.

yeah well that is probably the answer, why fixing connections with steam wont help.

My CPU is quite powerful, so I believe it's my memory bottlenecking me. I only have 8GB of RAM,

to be honest, "quite powerful" can be anything really, but one can always check the memory usage. i still assume that unfortunately, it could be still the cpu.

no problem,
btw. heavy games (max amount of npcs) on huge maps always slow down mid- to endgame even on high end pcs. after all the complexity goes up exponentially.
however small to medium sized galaxies, the average sizes played in multiplayer, should run at least considerably fast until endgame.

might help to use the colossus to remove lag coming from enemy empires.

 

[Jiro the Fluffy Raptor]

From what I hear, though, the Steam trick is something that removes lag entirely. Maybe I'm just being naiive, but I was under the impression that it is ultimately avoidable.

 

[monkeypunch87]

Dear mods, how can my posts be "necro", if I answered on a new started discussion on this topic with new and helpful information? Why do you even allow answering on older threads if you call them "necro" regardless?

I mean, it is still a new and useful information that this small workaround may work for some people today.

I would be happy if someone could clarify since I don't know which mod to ask.

Thank you.

 

[Azuredraco86]

Dont call it necro if the problem is still persisting.. call it necro when it was fixed some patches ago oh and undelete my post plz it was usefull to the topic