Game is Suddenly Slow

[SG1134]

I have been playing CK2 for several months now and over time it has gotten slower, but not annoying so, but suddenly things are slowing down so much that I just can't play the game effectively. I have also tried solutions like changing the affinity and priority settings on the task manager, lowering the resolution, etc.

 

[AndrewT]

Is this just in one particular saved game, or even in a new game you start?

Please post a dxdiag.txt (you can delete everything after the end of the "Sound devices" section for brevity) and your Documents/CK2/settings.txt. From your Documents/Paradox/CK2/logs/ directory, post system.log . Open setup.log in notepad and search for 'checksum', post that line only here too please.

 

[SG1134]

Sorry, but I don't really know how to do what you are asking. Can you post specific instructions on how to perform what you ask?

 

[SG1134]

I also forgot to say that it just seems to be the one saved game, any other new game seems to be working fine. With my current saved game I am playing the Roman Empire and it is just about big enough to encircle the entire Mediterranean.

 

[AndrewT]

DXDIAG is a program you run from a command prompt or the Windows start menu 'run' dialog box (or 'search programs' in Windows 7). After running it will open a window and start collecting info with a progress bar in the lower-left corner. When it completes click the 'save all information' button and save it to a file then post the first part of that file (from the top down to include "Sound Devices" only) here.

The other files I mentioned are in documents/paradox/ck2 folder, or /logs/ under that.

But from what you now say, this is something that happens when a very large empire goes into rebellion - is that the case? There's really nothing that can be done other than to ride through it, or edit the rebellions out of the save game file.

 

[SG1134]

Here are 2 files you requested, I was not able to find system.log and I don't know how to work notepad. Also, my empire is quite large and is going through a very big civil war. Is there a limit to the number of wars that I can engage in before the system slows and if so, what is that number and why is it that the game can't support such a thing?

 

[AndrewT]

You found the settings.txt OK. Under that same place you will see a folder called /logs/, double-click on that. In there will be a file system.log, attach that here. There will also be a file setup.log, double-click on it and it will open in notepad. In there hit the f3 (search) key and type in checksum which will take you to the line with that word in it. Highlight that whole line, ctl-C to 'copy' then switch to here and do ctl-V to 'paste' it in here.

It's not the number of civil wars but the sheer number of units active, as I understand it. The game can't cope with it because it was not designed to, so far as I know. Re-writing the game so that it can cope with a 1-in-10,000 extreme game is just not something that any developer does.

Your Intel driver (at least) is out of date. See if Toshiba have a newer one for you, if not you'll have to do a manual install from the Intel site.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24329&lang=eng&ProdId=3712
Try the the .exe install first. If it refuses to install (ie Toshiba have restricted you to their drivers, not the generic Intel ones) you’ll need to use the .zip version there.

http://forum.baldursgate.com/discus...ly-update-your-intel-drivers-at-your-own-risk
- Steps 1-10 part way down the page.
[Intel have their own instructions for this process, but they are old and only mention XP - probably can still be made to work though, with some tweaks]

 

[SG1134]

I could not attach the system.log but here is the checksum, [ck_application.cpp:1068]: Checksum is 2.1.6 (TTXL) 290141169.

 

[AndrewT]

Change the filename system.log to system.txt and you can attach it, or simply copy-and-paste the contents into a post here.

 

[Taedium]

HI, I have the same problem. I started to play in the old gods and since 1200 all was quite well... I mean playable. Now in 1301 my Empire is more than LARGE but I want to play my ironman game till end! I want to finish the conquest of the entire Map but is unplayable. Once each month game freezes, I must wait too much for each day... twice by year game freezes (with autosave)...

I started a new game and all performed well... My XL Empire doesn't fights no rebellion but, I can't believe that you say "It's not the number of civil wars but the sheer number of units active, as I understand it. The game can't cope with it because it was not designed to, so far as I know. Re-writing the game so that it can cope with a 1-in-10,000 extreme game is just not something that any developer does."

It means that I can't enjoy the finish of my game? Are you programming some kind of miracle to fix it? Or we must continue learnign cryptical lessons of computing science to give you information about our config or change some lines in setting files to try to boost a little the game.

That's not a cheap game but every time you sell a new DLC or patch I know it will bring new ways of trouble and anger.

NOW: what can I do to finish my game?

 

[SG1134]

Sorry, but the system.txt did not work. Here is the data though,

[systemsettings.cpp:202]: System memory: 0MB
[systemsettings.cpp:209]: Number of processors: 8
[systemsettings.cpp:220]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:252]: OS: Unknown Service Pack 1 Build: 7601
[gfx_settings.cpp:22]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=0, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:50]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:55]: 0: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M
[gfx_settings.cpp:69]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:95]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:101]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics device: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Graphics driver: nvumdshim.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:147]: Driver version: 9555
[gfx_settings.cpp:162]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B78E66-4226-11CF-9A57-0DDBB7C2C535}
VendorId: 4318
DeviceId: 3561
SubSysId: -83816071
Revision: 161
DriverVersion.HighPart: 524305
DriverVersion.LowPart: 795987


[gfx_settings.cpp:182]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:197]: Video memory amount: 4062MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:198]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:199]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:200]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:201]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:202]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:203]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:206]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:207]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:211]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:216]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:22]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=0, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:50]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:55]: 0: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M
[gfx_settings.cpp:69]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:80]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:95]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:101]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics device: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Graphics driver: nvumdshim.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:147]: Driver version: 9555
[gfx_settings.cpp:162]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B78E66-4226-11CF-9A57-0DDBB7C2C535}
VendorId: 4318
DeviceId: 3561
SubSysId: -83816071
Revision: 161
DriverVersion.HighPart: 524305
DriverVersion.LowPart: 795987


[gfx_settings.cpp:182]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:197]: Video memory amount: 4062MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:198]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:199]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:200]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:201]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:202]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:203]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:206]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:207]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:211]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:216]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[graphicssettings.cpp:444]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:169]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=no
Resolution=1000x600
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 720 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1366 768 60
[graphics.cpp:210]: Done creating device.
[main.cpp:589]: CK2 Version Jul 2 2014 : 09:39:23
[main.cpp:590]: Commandline:
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1234]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1236]: Create text database
[main.cpp:617]: Text database created
[main.cpp:635]: Creating application...
[main.cpp:668]: Initializing application...
[ck_application.cpp:593]: Initializing application...
[ck_application.cpp:597]: Done initializing application
[ck_application.cpp:611]: Loading cursor...
[ck_application.cpp:667]: Done loading cursor
[ck_application.cpp:670]: Initializing sound...
[ck_application.cpp:711]: Done initializing sound
[ck_application.cpp:713]: Initializing graphics...
[graphicssettings.cpp:444]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:169]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=no
Resolution=1366x768
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 720 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:409]: Usable res: 1366 768 60
[graphics.cpp:210]: Done creating device.
[ck_application.cpp:749]: Done initializing graphics
[main.cpp:671]: Running application...

 

[AndrewT]

Your dxdiag.txt shows an Intel driver but system.log shows an nVidia, so you have a dual GPU system. The problem is probably that the game is running on the low-performance Intel, not the nVidia.

In the nVidia Control Panel click on 3D Settings, and assign ck2game.exe to the nVidia card.

And your nVidia driver looks really old, this is the current one for you
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/77841

 

[SG1134]

Do I assign it to the CPU or the processor? Also, I have had problems with my line of succession. I have agnatic-cognatic primogeniture succession for all my kingdoms and empires save 1 kingdom but my heir has changed from my eldest son to one of my other sons. Can you help me out?

 

[AndrewT]

For gameplay question, please post in the man CK2 forum here, thanks - I'm no expert in that area.

The nVidia control panel has nothing to do with the CPU.
http://www.easterngraphics.com/pcon/en/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Manage-3D-Settings.png
Click on "program settings" that you see in that image, you see this
http://kbimg.dell.com/library/legac...140106192142/1326730496884.m14x optimus 1.jpg
and you can set ck2game.exe to "high-performance nVidia processor".

 

[SG1134]

Now I have a new problem. I just got the recent Charlemagne update and now I can't select my troops, let alone order them around. I just press on their unit shield and nothing happens.

 

[AndrewT]

There's no known problem like that. Please try a full clean re-install:

- move any valued save games elsewhere
- "delete local content" in Steam-CK2
- manually delete all files and folders left under Steam/CK2 AND Documents/Paradox/CK2
- re-install game in Steam, run a Steam Verify when done.

 

[dreamer05]

I have been playing CK2 for several months now and over time it has gotten slower, but not annoying so, but suddenly things are slowing down so much that I just can't play the game effectively. I have also tried solutions like changing the affinity and priority settings on the task manager, lowering the resolution, etc.

How did you do these other things? How do you change the affinity and priority setting in task manager? Also I changed the resolution to borderless, is that the best option for performance?

 

[AndrewT]

How did you do these other things? How do you change the affinity and priority setting in task manager?

Did you go into Task Manager and look? Right-click on any .exe running there and you'll see those options ...

 

[dreamer05]

Did you go into Task Manager and look? Right-click on any .exe running there and you'll see those options ...

Found the priority settings and changed it to high. Didn't seem to make much difference. Whats this about affinity though? And which resolution is best?

 

[AndrewT]

Usually the 'best' resolution is the one native to your monitor.

Are you asking what affinity is? It allows you to assign which CPUs the game is allowed to use.

I've just noticed you are not the OP ....