- Aug 1, 2018
Just stop doing the do when you have an heir (at least your wife) while you are only a Duke and once you have a Duchy all you titles in there are protected by partition for your primary Heir. Or just make that Duchy a priority when you have multiple Duke titles.Honestly that really broke the game for me.
I will have to wait until Modders fix it to finally be independent from High Medieval/Late Medieval.
There is no point, as you are not given a chance to play the game at all. Get the Culture lead, wait on proccs ( Fun and Engaging Gameplay... not) then you need to wait until the time has come to wait for more proccs to advance into the next era. After you procced that then, you just need to do some more proccing.
Also there is again no chance to at least play small or so. Have a well fortified and advanced core duchy your heir will completely get because that is also fucked.. You end up with a worthless Duke title and a Capital So there is no point in going more development than your capital because the moment your old character dies. They just will rise and revolt, everyone will line up with their armies waiting and fancy realms outside yours also throw in their dick for you to suck. My own uncle and my son both joined a faction to put me to abdicated to a forgeiner so I go Game-Over. That should never ever get supported, Family should have -1000 modifier to that (Likes the family to rule). In short you try to expand, finally you broken the alliances by scheming, can make a move and then you acquire more foreigners, more problems and then eventually you die and it all ignites. Sorry that is all but fun to have literarily no control over the realm.
Succession is a complex matter, but once you get the hang of it... you won't have any issues any more.
If you want easy succession just use mods or the console, plenty of ways to get the easy mode.
But I really think that primogeniture is inferior to most Elective type successions. Because with the Elective you can breed a strong Dynasty since you can choose your heir.
I can confirm for other elective types that it works.I don't think so, I'm still having issues. My top title (Kingdom of Ireland) and a random county go to my tanist, but everything else is split up by straight up partition among my sons. I hadn't noticed this happening yesterday. Even if I set the duchies I have to tanistry as well, the counties within them get split up.
So in my case, my tanist (3rd son) gets Isle of Man, Duchy of Meath, Duchy of Connacht, and Kingdom of Ireland. Every county within Meath (my capital duchy) goes to my eldest son, and every county within Connacht goes to my 2nd son.
Edit: Just wanted to add. This can't be intended, right? If it is, elective succession is pointless. I figured elective was used to give flexibility to determine your primary heir, rather than your eldest son having that spot. Basically, I figured adding an elective law to the top title makes your realm partition effectively into elective gavelkind.
The only problem is when the top title goes via election to your primary Heir, but the Title below it with you capital and all goes to a different Heir via Election.
In that case it splinters. (In my case the Empire and the Kingdom with the Capital went to different Heirs)
You basically have to ensure that your primary Heir gets all Titles below him that connect to you Capital.
Btw, Tanistry is in my opinion the worst Elective type, since it favors Old people. (which means it's hard to set up a young heir)
Really just don't bother with Elective Titles for Duchy and Dukes, it's totally not worth it.I think most people would be content with how splitting works (outside of losing control of home duchy, that didn't happen in most cases) IF we actually could negotiate with other family and vassals and act according to opinion and person character. I mean, i want to be a benevolent ruler, and treat my family well, but if upon current character death main heir get shafted and my other sons start to act outside of character (while still having positive opinion) it's not "expanding dynasty instead of personal holdings", it's inviting neighbors to roll you over. Especially because allies often don't help you in wars, and with biggest single stack wins (which, again, require consolidation).
This. As a new player it took me hours of experiments and reading Wiki and forums to get basic grasp of this. And i still unsure how it will turn out. If anything Tutorial should include scripted ruler death and step by explanation about who gets what title and land and why. Wish someone write a guide for this with examples and all the things you can do to sway situation in your favor.
If you get the Kingdom above via Election and the Capital is in the De Jure of that, your Duchy- and Dukes-titles will go to the elected Heir. (since with Partition the De jure core goes to the primary Heir)
Multiple electives just means more chance for Failure. If the Capital Duchy and the Kingdom go to different people in the Election things blow up.
With Partition, your primary Heir in a single Kingdom would get the Kingdom, the Capital Duchy and all Counties within that Duchy.In my experience the worst thing you can do is create a kingdom title.
Why? Because that way you don´t have enough same tier titles for the extra sons you have and will get all your titles split instead of each getting a duchy and the associated land. So you can have 4 duchy titles and counties only in your capital duchy and on succession up to 3 extra sons get those duchies and you get to keep your counties and capital duchy, then it is time to declare war to get back the lost duchies from your brothers, rinse and repeat.
To make it clear, if you have multiple top titles the inheritance splits those according to de jure so only the title and counties you have in it are split on inheritance.
If you create kingdom there are no equal titles so all your titles are split equally, which means you keep extra (above capital county/duchy and the kingdom) only if your other heirs all have 3 counties/duchies, which leads to the one county king experience.
The other sons can be your vassals in the other Duchies or Counties.
Your Realm will only split if you have multiple Kingdoms, since a King can't be the vassal of another King.
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