Game importing?

[Kinkness]

I saw HOI 4 was going to allow for custom nations. I figured this was the first step in continuing the ability to import games.

Will EU IV games be able to be imported into HOI 4?

My biggest dream is playing Ironman on CK II, and then Ironman my nation through EU IV, and finally see how it fares in HOI 4 during WWII.

 

[Hans_Schnitzel]

Between HoI and EU is Victoria.

 

[Kinkness]

Between HoI and EU is Victoria.

Yes, but they aren't making a new Victoria, and it's one of their lowest priority, lowest favorited games of the bunch. Not saying the progression shouldn't be there but.. yea...

 

[Hans_Schnitzel]

I'm just saying that between 1821 and 1936 a lot of things can happen.

 

[GhengisKhan]

Where did you hear HoI4 is allowing custom nations? this is a first too me.

 

[LordOfWar16]

I'm just saying that between 1821 and 1936 a lot of things can happen.

you mean 1444, 1821 and 1936 .

Besides, no you dont have custom nations in Hearts of Iron. You may have custom starts like in HoI III but even there it was only implemented by an expansion and not part of the main game and you didnt changed your nation but rather the technology and units you started with, borders, gouverment type etc stayed the same. You can make your own factions just like axis, allies and comintern but not own nations.

 

[Gamer31133]

There is not custom nations in hoi4, but when the world thension hits 100% minor countrys can form custom factions. If you have seen quill18 video on hoi4 then you know that he created a custom faction with Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPB6KF7JCKw

 

[Kinkness]

Ah my bad and mis understanding.

 

[PiousWarrior]

Victoria, and it's one of their lowest priority, lowest favorited games of the bunch

Definitely not lowest favorite game prioity may me low for now if they announce VİC3 i am go the stockholm and live there for release

 

[The_Meme_Man]

I'm game for a Vic 3. The mods for Vic 2 were nice, but I would like to see what a Vic 3 can do to make the game as fun as PDM or Vickymod while having a bit more "sandbox" from Eu4.

But yeah, a lot happens between 1821 and 1936. Look in real life: Spain lost its power, Germany was united, half of Asia was owned by Europeans, United States became a thing, and communism arrived. How would the EU4 civs match up to appropriate ideologies? WWII between absolute monarchies sounds kinda bland.

 

[Will Steel]

Yes, but they aren't making a new Victoria, and it's one of their lowest priority, lowest favorited games of the bunch. Not saying the progression shouldn't be there but.. yea...

Victoria 2 has got a decent base, where are you pulling out ideas like these from?

Besides, they could be making Victoria 3 as Project Augustus right now, they are just not revealing it. They are not prone to lying - it could be a sequel, or it might have a different name.

 

[Kinkness]

Victoria 2 has got a decent base, where are you pulling out ideas like these from?

Besides, they could be making Victoria 3 as Project Augustus right now, they are just not revealing it. They are not prone to lying - it could be a sequel, or it might have a different name.

I'm pulling it from the understanding that game developers focus on the most liked games, and most popular.

We are getting a HOI IV, and got an EU IV. Only reason there isn't a CK III or IV is because CK II is so golden as is, why change what works? They are probably afraid of fudging up CK III, and with the depth of the mods of CK II might as well let it keep it's glorious prestige.

But.. Vic II? No real new expansions, hardly looked at by paradox and while sure there is a player based, and sure would be great to have a VIC III, doesn't seem to be getting nearly as much attention by paradox. Reason? same reason every developer has to favor other game titles.. whats most popular?

further proof? look at the forum posts.

Crusader Kings II
Discussions:
77.977
Messages:
1.279.302
Europa Universalis IV
Discussions:
64.180
Messages:
1.017.837
Vic II
Discussions:
25.592
Messages:
406.882

Vic II has less than double the amount of either game. So yes, I do believe the community speaks for itself, quite literally of which is the most favorite.

I could be wrong.. but I doubt it.

 

[aruon]

don't forget kink, V2s golden days were before PIs watershed years. V2 was simply just too old and outdated by then while CK2 and EU4 are still shiny and getting expanded upon. plus i think V2 was the first PDS to break a million sales (once again, this was when PDS games were still too uber-niche to attract attention AKA pre-Steam). and while sure total sales aren't the ultimate indicator of a popular game, those who have had it for a while will still hold a torch for it. you can't say the same for HOI 3, especially when HOI 2/DH/AoD gets involved since they're argubly better overall games.

you could say V2 is the TES 3 of PDS games. still quite good though with certain shortcomings common at the time, and just too old to attract major attention.

 

[ringhloth]

Victoria 2 has got a decent base, where are you pulling out ideas like these from?

Besides, they could be making Victoria 3 as Project Augustus right now, they are just not revealing it. They are not prone to lying - it could be a sequel, or it might have a different name.

They've stated multiple times that Augustus is a new IP, and they've also mentioned that anyone who wants to work on Vicky 3 are on other teams right now.

Anyway, HoI is too specific for a converter to work. National focuses would be completely useless.

 

[Kinkness]

don't forget kink, V2s golden days were before PIs watershed years. V2 was simply just too old and outdated by then while CK2 and EU4 are still shiny and getting expanded upon. plus i think V2 was the first PDS to break a million sales (once again, this was when PDS games were still too uber-niche to attract attention AKA pre-Steam). and while sure total sales aren't the ultimate indicator of a popular game, those who have had it for a while will still hold a torch for it. you can't say the same for HOI 3, especially when HOI 2/DH/AoD gets involved since they're argubly better overall games.

you could say V2 is the TES 3 of PDS games. still quite good though with certain shortcomings common at the time, and just too old to attract major attention.

Fair enough. You're lucky TES 3 is my favorite so I understand exactly what you're saying

 

[Hiiri]

My biggest dream is playing Ironman on CK II, and then Ironman my nation through EU IV, and finally see how it fares in HOI 4 during WWII.

Screw that! CK2 -> HoI4 converter. Who wouldn't want to experience the Abbasid blitzkrieg?

 

[Will Steel]

Screw that! CK2 -> HoI4 converter. Who wouldn't want to experience the Abbasid blitzkrieg?

Seriously, they'll have COMPLETE control of the world's oil.

 

[Cossack_of_Hetmanschina]

my big dream is to form in CK2 Kievan Rus,transform it in EU4 in Ukraine,then to import it in Victoria as Ukrainian Empire,and watch what will be with that in 1936.
So,I don`t know,how it would work,but I hope that it would be done.

 

[Spartanlemur]

I'm pulling it from the understanding that game developers focus on the most liked games, and most popular.

We are getting a HOI IV, and got an EU IV. Only reason there isn't a CK III or IV is because CK II is so golden as is, why change what works? They are probably afraid of fudging up CK III, and with the depth of the mods of CK II might as well let it keep it's glorious prestige.

But.. Vic II? No real new expansions, hardly looked at by paradox and while sure there is a player based, and sure would be great to have a VIC III, doesn't seem to be getting nearly as much attention by paradox. Reason? same reason every developer has to favor other game titles.. whats most popular?

further proof? look at the forum posts.

Crusader Kings II
Discussions:
77.977
Messages:
1.279.302
Europa Universalis IV
Discussions:
64.180
Messages:
1.017.837
Vic II
Discussions:
25.592
Messages:
406.882

Vic II has less than double the amount of either game. So yes, I do believe the community speaks for itself, quite literally of which is the most favorite.

I could be wrong.. but I doubt it.

SteamDB shows (in terms of owners):

CK2: 1,239,373
EU4: 917,202
HoI3: 450,532
Victoria 2: 370,587

Consider that a fair few players may not have the game on Steam (it came out long before Paradox's migration to Steam-only).

Now it's clear that it's the least successful of Paradox's main games, but to be fair, Hearts of Iron 3 didn't do *that* much better. Not only that, but it has a loyal following, and the potential to attract newer Paradoxians if its complex mechanics can be delivered in a simpler manner (as HoI4 is doing to HoI3).

And 370,000 owners is no small figure. They won't do an EU5 or CK3 next, so they're probably going to be doing Victoria 3 and Rome 2. Remember that Crusader Kings 1 was not a massive success, but Crusader Kings 2 became Paradox's best-selling title. I see no reason why they would not make Victoria 3.

Not only that, but they have long stated that they want to make a "playable continuous history" and as we well know from the existence of this thread, converting saved games into Hearts of Iron 4 is clearly part of that.

 

[Felrisen]

Have patience guys, there's no doubt in my mind that Vicky 3 will be made. After Stellaris and HoI4 are bedded down, the studios attention will turn to the next big project. It will be a year or two before we get a smell of it but dine on it we will! In the meantime, we'll have plenty to keep us going starting next month with Stellaris.