Game crash on save when you hold too many title

[Thanak]

I have a game were I play as France. I went on a conquering spree and have most of europe + byzantium . Me and my uncle (i'm his heir) heir are holding all the duke titles.

I keep all the kings title for myself, I got 20-30 of them and I give the duke to my uncle as I need to decrease badboy (what can I say, I'm a bad exploiter, but that's not the point here).

At one point i'm holding around half of the duke title and my uncle the other half, and I can save my game fine.

If my uncle die, I inherit fine (well with the quirky window when you have too much to inherit but that's not too bad) but then the game crash when I save the game.

 

[Thanak]

If there's a reproduceable problem, yes.

Do you have some FTP site where I could upload the file ?

Even compressed, that file is bigger than what my mailler allow

 

[unmerged(1196)]

You have the problems because you started with 1.03a...

The problem is the dyn = 0 characters.
Change them all to dyn = 708

More can be read in this thread.

Ah, thanks!

Edit: Actually, this can't be the problem, since there are no dyn = 0 characters in my saved game.

 

[unmerged(31613)]

In my case, i play with clean 1.03b install (i bought the game after that one).

Actually playing another duchy to see if i can find something that can help

 

[unmerged(31094)]

I've also noticed that the time between the stop/restart of the soundtrack cycle (i.e. the last track stop and the first reload) is extremely dangerous for the game engine cause you can get a CTD, for example, while saving or if an event pop up.
But, i don't know if it's a game bug or my laptop is totally annihilated by CK

PS: Havard, what's new about my gamesave?

 

[Havard]

PS: Havard, what's new about my gamesave?

Yes. I've found the error. Take a look at the new sticky about crash on save problems. When I check your save I find this:

title = { 
    tag = TEUT 
    tier = kingdom 
    liege = ---- 
    holder = { character = { type = 0 id = 0 } startdate = { year = 1171 month = november day = 9 } enddate = { year = 1176 month = july day = 12 } } 
    }

Delete this part and you should be fine

 

[unmerged(1196)]

Ah, I found the error. There was a type = 33 id = 97 entry.

 

[unmerged(31094)]

Oh, thank you very much !

 

[Thanak]

I'm still having that error in 1.04.

I got the savegame and can recreate the crash at will. I just need a FTP site to send them because even zipped they are bigger than my upmail quota.

 

[Havard]

I'm still having that error in 1.04.

I got the savegame and can recreate the crash at will. I just need a FTP site to send them because even zipped they are bigger than my upmail quota.

Check your PMs...

 

[Riddermark]

hmm i don't have this problem ?? i own whole north africa, spain and france.. like 10 or more king titles and countless dukes but it works fine? especially with 1.04 i hadn't have a savegame crash till now (unlike 1.03b)

 

[Thanak]

I'm talking all european king + Bysantium and most duke title

 

[Thanak]

I'm talking all european king + Bysantium and most duke title

Did you get the file I uploaded ?

 

[Thanak]

Please tell me you managed to recreate the crash and this is a recognised bug. This is really a game killer for me

 

[Havard]

Please tell me you managed to recreate the crash and this is a recognised bug. This is really a game killer for me

I can recreate the crash playing 1.04a. When I load it with the latest beta I get no crash...

 

[Thanak]

I can recreate the crash playing 1.04a. When I load it with the latest beta I get no crash...

I just tryed with the lastest beta and I still get the crash.

I don't know what you did but it still seems to be a problem for me. What can I do to help you solve this ?

 

[Havard]

I just tryed with the lastest beta and I still get the crash.

I don't know what you did but it still seems to be a problem for me. What can I do to help you solve this ?

I think I have a save I made after I loaded the game. I'll see if it still loads

 

[Thanak]

I think I have a save I made after I loaded the game. I'll see if it still loads

Go the crash again with the lates beta

 

[unmerged(28030)]

I'm playing with 1.04, 1337 scenario and just started experiencing this type of crash. I don't hold "too many titles" in my opinion: King of Serbia, Bosina, Croatia, about 6 duchies, and 14 counties. When I tried to save the game last, it crashed. Unfortunately the save/crash wiped out the previous save I had loaded from, so I can't try it again -- last night it also wiped out my autosave (which I had forgotten)which means I have to start from the oldautosave which is about 10 years previous. This sucks and pisses me off greatly. I guess I now have to make a backup of every one of my saves to avoid this happening again. If the save/crash reoccurs I suppose I'll be back here (nothing else I can do, besides cursing).

Edit: Probably not helpful, but it was the early 1370s, Germany disintgrating from being at war with the Horde for too long -- lots of countries in the game at war.

 

[Rio]

Uber,
I also have finally gotten an unstable game from 104a that does not seem to have a solution. I actually have played 3 to finish with no trouble, and now have one of the second set of three that is, to me, inexplicably unstable and will ctd every 12 to 24 game months. I do not know if these are the result of corrupted savegames that do not go critical until two years down the road, but since a reload does not crash for 18 months or more, the game can be continued by anally saving manually frequently, and relaoding after a crash.

It is not until late middle of the game that there is a consistent problem or tendency to instability, and it still looks like it is some subroutine severely lagging...

 

[Grosshaus]

Guys, there is no need to do extensive ctd testing with 1.04a due to the beta patches having fixed most of them and introduced some new ones.