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Well from the research ive done, i can say the Germanic Tribes learned thier Fortiefing from the Romans due to the nessecaty to protect themselfs from them and they already had the basic knowladge before hand but didnt use more complex ones until far later during the Romans incursion into Germania itself, from the Migratory point of view, the largest Tribes were Germanic, even the Gallic stemd from them, but apart from that Germanic tribes were the largets, spreading from far north Europe down again, and into the Eastern Baltic and futher down, The was one Germanic tribe around the Wichsel and i cant remember which now it was one of the Goth's and they started to migrate due to the fact the Huns were invading and coming closer and closer to them so they spread and migrated SE to Crimea, then futher towards Romania, Bulgarie etc, back up North through Slavia, above Italia, over to Gaul, and into Spain, and even to the North of Africa, to Carthaige, on the way alot of those Goths setteled in the places mentioned and build up new Empires/Chiefdoms, although some being forced yet again by the Hun at a later date. once the Eastern Baltics and part of Eastern Europe were more or less empty, incame the Slavs from the East, after the Huns, reasons i dont know why, but gues they wanted to get away from them too eventualy, thierby settleing in large parts of Eastern Europe and integrating with the leftover tribes etc.

Thats my understanding of it :)
 

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In map 2 in the post #16 in this thread there is a few probably slavic tribes mentioned in the far right of the map.
 

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KonigMaximilian said:
Well from the research ive done, i can say the Germanic Tribes learned thier Fortiefing from the Romans due to the nessecaty to protect themselfs from them and they already had the basic knowladge before hand but didnt use more complex ones until far later during the Romans incursion into Germania itself, from the Migratory point of view, the largest Tribes were Germanic, even the Gallic stemd from them, but apart from that Germanic tribes were the largets, spreading from far north Europe down again, and into the Eastern Baltic and futher down, The was one Germanic tribe around the Wichsel and i cant remember which now it was one of the Goth's and they started to migrate due to the fact the Huns were invading and coming closer and closer to them so they spread and migrated SE to Crimea, then futher towards Romania, Bulgarie etc, back up North through Slavia, above Italia, over to Gaul, and into Spain, and even to the North of Africa, to Carthaige, on the way alot of those Goths setteled in the places mentioned and build up new Empires/Chiefdoms, although some being forced yet again by the Hun at a later date. once the Eastern Baltics and part of Eastern Europe were more or less empty, incame the Slavs from the East, after the Huns, reasons i dont know why, but gues they wanted to get away from them too eventualy, thierby settleing in large parts of Eastern Europe and integrating with the leftover tribes etc.

Thats my understanding of it :)

Basically all this happened in the later empire (300 AD and onwards) so it will not be relevant for the coming game. But just wait for the mods there are sure to be a lot of Fall of the Roman Empire mods judging from the interest that particular subject has in the History Forums. :p
 

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Ed-Thunder said:
Well,they appeared as cultural and linguistic phenomena in 4th century after Christ so they can't get into game ending before Christ
There is not much theories-from a place in Western Ukraine - I would check spelling and post it later

Correct, the Slavs had no influence on the Hellenic World. But, expansion and mods into the 4th and 5th century could include slav tribes
 

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EuroSlavski said:
no your wrong i'm right.

Ah, the mother of solid arguments.

slavs where trading amber with the romans while the germans where still trying to keep them at bay

Proof? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've just never heard this argument before and would like to see a source.
 

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Wiking said:
I'm guessing there will be a Byzantium mod in about 20 minutes after the game comes out, so that era will be covered methinks. :D

One can only hope. ;)
 

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EuroSlavski said:
german "gard" comes from proto-slavic "gorod" a fortified place.

"Gard" is certainly no word in modern high German. What does it mean? :confused:
 

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Zanza said:
"Gard" is certainly no word in modern high German. What does it mean? :confused:
I think he means Germanic, as gård is a word in the northern Germanic language Swedish.
 

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Same word as in Garden btw.

Whether or not gorod comes from gård or vice-versa is under rather fierce linguistic controversy though.
 

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Arilou said:
Same word as in Garden btw.

Whether or not gorod comes from gård or vice-versa is under rather fierce linguistic controversy though.
¿How come that garden in spanish is "jardín" which pronounced is quite close?
Slavic influence in Iberian Peninsula is just ridiculously low, only during the caliphate and to small.
 

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Vacceo said:
¿How come that garden in spanish is "jardín" which pronounced is quite close?
Slavic influence in Iberian Peninsula is just ridiculously low, only during the caliphate and to small.

It's also jardin in French, which makes Latin roots much more likely IMHO than some obscure Slavic link.
 

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Veldmaarschalk said:
We don't have much knowledge about the Celtic and Germanic tribes, and we know even less about the Slavic tribes (names ? leaders ? rulers ?)

Whatever could you mean? I have several books by Doctors that study Celtic tribes. Certainly we know more about Celtic tribes than you lead people to believe....
 
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Vacceo said:
¿How come that garden in spanish is "jardín" which pronounced is quite close?
Slavic influence in Iberian Peninsula is just ridiculously low, only during the caliphate and to small.

ofcourse you do know that many germanic tribes settled in iberia (sueves) or left a lasting impact on the people and culture by just passing through (vandals).

you must come from the school of "everyone in western europe are descended from romans, and everyone from central and eastern europe just became a people during soviet times" am i right?
 

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Victor1234 said:
It's also jardin in French, which makes Latin roots much more likely IMHO than some obscure Slavic link.

jardin, garden, jàrdin <- gardinium (medieval latin) <- hortus gardus (latin meaning garden (hortus) with fence (gardus)) gardus <- gart,gardo (old frank and german) for fence but also walls

now some in this forum ( ;) ) say gardo <- gard (slavic) while I say the reverse gardo -> grad, -gorod :p
 
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