"gained trait message"

[Castios]

I used to have setting that showed me message every time I gained new trait. But I recently resetted all my message settings to default so I could set it all up again a bit differently and now I cannot find this option.

I even entered the file responsible for that in notepad and there is no single "trait" word..

So this confuses me so much, how do I get this option back? Was it removed at some point?

 

[knppel]

I had trait messages DE-activated and had them pop up again since yesterday. I did not bother to check the settings yet, but it does seem like someone touched that, yeah.

 

[BuddyLove]

Where in general do I set that setting?

Getting so many hundreds of messages makes messages at all useless and it would be great to turn some of them off.

 

[Karlington]

Where in general do I set that setting?

Getting so many hundreds of messages makes messages at all useless and it would be great to turn some of them off.

You can press the Escape key and go into Message Settings to adjust them. When a popup window appears there will also be an envelope in the lower right corner that you can click to alter that particular type of message. For alerts you can right-click the alert window for the same thing.

 

[Castios]

So, if anyone has ck2 installed for a while on your pc, can you head to \Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings II\interface\messagetypes_custom.txt and look for "Trait" word within this file or just attach it to the post? I really want to restore messages informing me of lost and gained traits. It's really annoying manually having to check every time you have an event with chance to gain some trait. :/

 

[Karlington]

So, if anyone has ck2 installed for a while on your pc, can you head to \Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings II\interface\messagetypes_custom.txt and look for "Trait" word within this file or just attach it to the post? I really want to restore messages informing me of lost and gained traits. It's really annoying manually having to check every time you have an event with chance to gain some trait. :/

The word "trait" does not occur in that file.

If you mean the windows that pop up and say something like "Justice is a harsh mistress, and I can't love her any more," when you lose the Just trait, that's not from the message alert system. That's from the game calling an event which notifies you if you gained or lost a trait. That has to be done individually from each event that adds or removes a trait, and can't be affected by the Message settings.

To get that part fixed a person would have to go through every event that adds or removes a trait and make sure the appropriate event is called, and add it if not. That'd be a pretty massive project, would require a mod, and disable achievements.

If there is an actual Message settings-style popup/alert about it I have never seen it myself.

 

[Castios]

The word "trait" does not occur in that file.

If you mean the windows that pop up and say something like "Justice is a harsh mistress, and I can't love her any more," when you lose the Just trait, that's not from the message alert system. That's from the game calling an event which notifies you if you gained or lost a trait. That has to be done individually from each event that adds or removes a trait, and can't be affected by the Message settings.

To get that part fixed a person would have to go through every event that adds or removes a trait and make sure the appropriate event is called, and add it if not. That'd be a pretty massive project, would require a mod, and disable achievements.

If there is an actual Message settings-style popup/alert about it I have never seen it myself.

I am pretty sure you could set notification before when character gained trait.

Then every time you would gain trait you would be notified "you just gained xxx trait". But I reset my message settings and I cannot even find this anymore and I went through all of them.

 

[Karlington]

I am pretty sure you could set notification before when character gained trait.

Then every time you would gain trait you would be notified "you just gained xxx trait". But I reset my message settings and I cannot even find this anymore and I went through all of them.

Ok, that sounds like an _extremely_ useful notification. I hope we can find it. I will look as well.

 

[Rags17]

The word "trait" does not occur in that file.

If you mean the windows that pop up and say something like "Justice is a harsh mistress, and I can't love her any more," when you lose the Just trait, that's not from the message alert system. That's from the game calling an event which notifies you if you gained or lost a trait. That has to be done individually from each event that adds or removes a trait, and can't be affected by the Message settings.

To get that part fixed a person would have to go through every event that adds or removes a trait and make sure the appropriate event is called, and add it if not. That'd be a pretty massive project, would require a mod, and disable achievements.
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or you could create an event that checks the player only for any gain or loss of traits and have it fire a pop when any change is detected. Tedious to write and cycle intensive but once set up should work in the background no issue.

 

[Karlington]

or you could create an event that checks the player only for any gain or loss of traits and have it fire a pop when any change is detected. Tedious to write and cycle intensive but once set up should work in the background no issue.

How would you even do that? Like, how would an event save all traits one has, then compare, and notify of changes?

 

[Rags17]

How would you even do that? Like, how would an event save all traits one has, then compare, and notify of changes?

The event could run continuously and check if the player had a certain trait. The event would have two flags for each trait of interest - has_<traitname> and had_<traitname>. Every cycle the event would first set had_<traitname> to whatever the value is for has_<traitname>, then it would check if they have the trait now and if yes the flag would be set to true, otherwise it would be set to false. The final step would be to check has_ and had_ and if they are different then it would pause the game with a pop up.

Example

Flag has_greedy starts the game set to false, had_greedy also start set to false. The event checks on game start and discovers that character does in fact have the Greedy trait, so had_greedy is immediately set to whatever has_greedy currently is (false) and is thus unchanged, but has_greedy is set to true because the character DOES have the trait. In the next and all future cycles the character still has the Greedy trait so both flags get set to true - has_greedy = true and had_greedy = true.

During the course of play the character loses the Greedy trait. On the next check cycle has_greedy is suddenly flipped to false, so on this cycle only the event will return had_greedy = true and has_greedy = false so it will run the pop up ("Your character has lost the Greedy trait !"). The next cycle comes around and both has_ and had_ are now false so the pop up does not fire nor will it until the character gains and then loses it again.

As I mentioned this event is very tedious to write and CPU heavy to run but if it only ran on the player's character and was limited to say the top 30-40 traits of interest to the player then it shouldn't be TOO hard to write nor laggy to run. But would it be worth it ?

 

[Karlington]

Thanks, good explanation!