Lately, I have been reading a lot of books about diffusionism in mankind's past. For those of you that don't know, diffusionism is the thought that the old and new worlds influenced each other to one degree or another. some feel that there was little to no contact, others, what is called the school of "hyper diffusionism" think that the ancient peoples (usually egyptians, sumerians and phoenician/punic peoples) actually founded amerindian and pacific cultures.
personally, i do feel there was a good deal of contact between the old and new worlds, but that the various civilizations influenced each other only in ways similar to post-columbian civilizations.
my idea though, is to postulate an alternate world where the vikings and celts and brythonic peoples, were a little more aggressive in their alleged exploration and colonization of the north american continent.
in the pacific, both the islands and the americas, i would like to see chinese and japanese peoples (japanese = jomon culture, chinese = shang dynasty and several others) populating the coast.
this wouldn't really have changed history much, but i think it would add some flavor to the game. have a california that fights for its independence from mexico from baja to seattle, with asians and indians and spanish exiles from Emperor Iturbide's Mexico against the new Republican Mexico government. In the east, an Iroquios Confederacy that never fell, never submitted to the United States, dominating western new york, which sports a hybrid amerindian-european culture.
the northeast and new england would still be filled with various indians, we can imagine that their tribes were a little more successful in unifying, so there would be amerindian pops in the us territory, but they would need to be pacified and would rise up and rebel if not treated well.
this mod won't require too much work, i just want to know if anyone would be willing to play it if i made it over the next few weeks? i am still considering whether or not to include it into VIP or Vanilla 1.04 since i have both. i am thinking VIP, but then i have to decide which culture tag to eliminate so i can make an Algonquin one (since the indians in the northeast were algonquin) and decide on the new pops, since the US would undoubtedly be a little more populous in certain areas, and also get the Iroquois Confederacy set up and figure out which nation to delete if i do VIP. I also might want a few more revolt nations like the Huron and the Wampanoag, Narragensett, Micmac ... some of the tribes that might have survived a little stronger had they interbred heavily with Celtic-Viking-Brythonic settlers.
this wouldn't really be a mod i guess, just more of an adaptation/flavor to Victoria. who would be interested in seeing something like this? does anyone else have any other ideas?
EDIT: OMG i forgot too, i was reading the book 1421 also and i thought i would like to see Australia and New Zealand be indepdent nations from the start of the game, both of these places being a fusion of Aborigine-Maori-Chinese and Hindu nations. Zheng He's treasure fleet may actually have visited these places regularly, and it isn't impossible that if the Ming Dynasty hadn't killed their navy so quick and so hard, that some colonists may also have left. Then again, it could also have been established sometime in the past too. Who knows?
personally, i do feel there was a good deal of contact between the old and new worlds, but that the various civilizations influenced each other only in ways similar to post-columbian civilizations.
my idea though, is to postulate an alternate world where the vikings and celts and brythonic peoples, were a little more aggressive in their alleged exploration and colonization of the north american continent.
in the pacific, both the islands and the americas, i would like to see chinese and japanese peoples (japanese = jomon culture, chinese = shang dynasty and several others) populating the coast.
this wouldn't really have changed history much, but i think it would add some flavor to the game. have a california that fights for its independence from mexico from baja to seattle, with asians and indians and spanish exiles from Emperor Iturbide's Mexico against the new Republican Mexico government. In the east, an Iroquios Confederacy that never fell, never submitted to the United States, dominating western new york, which sports a hybrid amerindian-european culture.
the northeast and new england would still be filled with various indians, we can imagine that their tribes were a little more successful in unifying, so there would be amerindian pops in the us territory, but they would need to be pacified and would rise up and rebel if not treated well.
this mod won't require too much work, i just want to know if anyone would be willing to play it if i made it over the next few weeks? i am still considering whether or not to include it into VIP or Vanilla 1.04 since i have both. i am thinking VIP, but then i have to decide which culture tag to eliminate so i can make an Algonquin one (since the indians in the northeast were algonquin) and decide on the new pops, since the US would undoubtedly be a little more populous in certain areas, and also get the Iroquois Confederacy set up and figure out which nation to delete if i do VIP. I also might want a few more revolt nations like the Huron and the Wampanoag, Narragensett, Micmac ... some of the tribes that might have survived a little stronger had they interbred heavily with Celtic-Viking-Brythonic settlers.
this wouldn't really be a mod i guess, just more of an adaptation/flavor to Victoria. who would be interested in seeing something like this? does anyone else have any other ideas?
EDIT: OMG i forgot too, i was reading the book 1421 also and i thought i would like to see Australia and New Zealand be indepdent nations from the start of the game, both of these places being a fusion of Aborigine-Maori-Chinese and Hindu nations. Zheng He's treasure fleet may actually have visited these places regularly, and it isn't impossible that if the Ming Dynasty hadn't killed their navy so quick and so hard, that some colonists may also have left. Then again, it could also have been established sometime in the past too. Who knows?
