So, I've played Japan, China, and Persia. Are there any other Uncivs that anyone can recommend? Perhaps one of the Indian minors or something. I dunno, I'm just looking for the next challenge.
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Maybe Egypt but that's about it. I love the idea of playing Ethiopia but the reality is you'll never get to civilized status.
Hmm...I played Egypt but cheated very slightly...
Made myself civilized....That was kinda fun. So I guess I can't really recommend an uncivilized country to play
Made myself civilized....That was kinda fun. So I guess I can't really recommend an uncivilized country to play
V:R has made it even less fun to play uncivs, other than the ones mentioned.
Unless you edit things yourself.
Unless you edit things yourself.
Playing uncivs is not much fun unfortunately because for the first half of the game you basically wait for the horrendously slow reseach to finish and watch the money sloooowly trickle into your budget. And once you manage to civilize you´re still way behind in tech and can´t hope to do much except conquering uncivs
I have to agree that non-civs are not as fun as they used to be. Shutting down the "grant land for DoW possibility" was sensible but it has taken much fun out of playing uncivs.
noddy102 said:
You've all missed the greatness that is SIAM. If you play your cards right you can civilize by 1880/1870 and be on your way to challenging Japan for Asian Hegemony. You won't be gobbled up because UK constantly guarantees your independence.
Dysken said:
Hush now, don't interrupt the mood of going down the memory line back to the "good old days".
But still, good point about Siam.
Is there an event chain for that? Or any events at all for Siam? I think I tried that nation once but got bored after a while. Even if its economy was half-decent.Dysken said:
No it's not event driven. But Choulanlongkorn gives you a bunch of RPs. But with such a small national population as Thailand has it's really easy to civilize since you can convert all thais to clergy and have the laotians and khmers slave away in the opium farms.ComradeOm said:
Dysken said:
Those events I believe are in vIp only.
Siam in VIP:R is actually a very doable unciv, as you note. Between the research point rebalancing we've developed and the fact the British (and French, if they get into indochina) will guarantee you definitely helps.
In VIP:R, I'd say Siam, Korea and Sokoto are doable to make civilized. Abyssinia likely is as well if you take out Shoa and reunite the Amhara lands.
OHgamer said:
I've managed with Panjab. But man was it hard. Secret is to get Post Napoleonic thought first and then change around the intellectual establishment so you can get freedom of trade.
Post Napoleonic Thought-> Jominian is absolutely necessary if you are to be able to survive the BEIC onslaught in 1850 something. I created Mughalistan but then reloaded as I wanted to civilize the good old fashioned way.
Also Gobbling up Sind before the brits do is paramount.
There's an event for it in VIP and Vanilla aswell I think. It requires you to hold certain key provinces in northern India. Basically four of your own provinces (Ludhiana, Kalat, Sind, Srinagar) and the capitals of the three closest indian minors.Aethis said:
In nilla i'm not sure.
There is no question that you can form the Mughal empire but rather which provinces are required.ComradeOm said:
Yup I just found it but it says:
id = 8800
random = no
country = TRA
trigger = {
prestige = 100
control = { province = 1945 } # Hyderabad
control = { province = 1929 } # Nagpur
control = { province = 1919 } # Bhopal
control = { province = 1920 } # Gwailor
control = { province = 1483 } # Jodhpur
control = { province = 1897 } # Baroda
does this mean I have to be Travancore to fire it?
id = 8800
random = no
country = TRA
trigger = {
prestige = 100
control = { province = 1945 } # Hyderabad
control = { province = 1929 } # Nagpur
control = { province = 1919 } # Bhopal
control = { province = 1920 } # Gwailor
control = { province = 1483 } # Jodhpur
control = { province = 1897 } # Baroda
does this mean I have to be Travancore to fire it?
Aethis said:
Indeed it does.
As well as the requirement of needing 100 prestige and for you to own those provinces.