I just wanted to ask what lesser countries they played that they liked. I recently played Romania and I liked it a lot.
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I like Italy if you class it as such. Sweden can be quite fun, but it can also be quite boring. Depends how you play it. Ive played one game as NAT CHI which I lost, but that was quite good. Will play more when I finish my current FRA and GER games.
These are of course vanilla HoI.
These are of course vanilla HoI.
Luxemburg is fun for a challenge, Belgium is the same, except since you have the Congo, the Germans can't take you. The Czechs are supposed to be fun. Canada if you are into that kinda game.... Turkey, then try to get Iraq and Syria-Lebennon back... It all depends on what you like...
Finland, TchechoSlowakija and to a lesser extent Poland really hone your defensive skills. Turkey is fun because of the amount of options you have. Brazil and Argentina can be turned into nice little SouthAmerican Empires. Either one of the Spains have the benefit that you can start fighting strait away, and there is a lot of potential afterwards. Canada, Australia and SouthAfrica can be fun although there isn't a big threat of foreign invasion. There are lots of possibilities out there.
Czechoslovakia is surprisingly easy military-wise; you basically cannot be invaded via the Sudentland, so there are really only two threats to worry about: an invasion via southern Poland, once Poland has fallen, and an Axis Hungary marching into Bratislava; the best solution for Hungary is pre-emption, if you can DoW them before they join the Axis then they should be no match, alone, for Czech troops. Poland is more delicate; you can try to prop up the Poles, but even the Sudetenland forts won't stop the Huns if they're unmanned, so you have only limited forces with which to intervene in the open Polish plain, where they risk being overhwelmed and destroyed by the Germans. One tactic is to join the allies after the Germans attack Poland, and overun Austria and southern Germany when the AI has them unprotected; it won't cover your weak flank but it will fuck up Germnay and provide a nice boost to your industries and ressources. The one problem with the Czechs, of course, if that you don't have enough ressources to run your industries.
Turkey is another good option. Both Persia and oil-rich Iraq are pushovers, although DoWing them will be a pain; non-democratic minors are probably the better choice because you can DoW more easily and strengthen yourself before the world war begins.
Turkey is another good option. Both Persia and oil-rich Iraq are pushovers, although DoWing them will be a pain; non-democratic minors are probably the better choice because you can DoW more easily and strengthen yourself before the world war begins.
I had a really fun game as Canada. You can't churn out enough war material to greatly influence the war so the whole thing is basically the AI's war with you playing a supporting role on whichever front you choose.
I also found thet with fewer units I took much greater care to shepherd them and prevent losses.
I also found thet with fewer units I took much greater care to shepherd them and prevent losses.
I have tried playing Turkey, and there don't seem to be that many options. But it is my first game in HOI1, so I may be missing finer points. [Using 1.06c btw]
Turkey's claimed territory in Iraq and Syris is protected by UK and France, Persia is weak but in Soviet SOI.
This leaves Balkans - really only Bulgaria, which is outside German SOI until they ally with Hungary or Romania. But Bulgaria has almost as many divisions as Turkey and its capital is in mountains.
On top of which Turkey is a democracy (is this changed to Paternal Autocrat in HOI2?) - so can't start anything!
So what suggestions for learning:
a) strengthen tech and army and wait for general war before fighting
b) strengthen just enough to take out Bulgaria (how much would I need?), then wait
c) ally with someone for extra techs, then wait (can I declare war on a minor if already in an alliance?)
Turkey's claimed territory in Iraq and Syris is protected by UK and France, Persia is weak but in Soviet SOI.
This leaves Balkans - really only Bulgaria, which is outside German SOI until they ally with Hungary or Romania. But Bulgaria has almost as many divisions as Turkey and its capital is in mountains.
On top of which Turkey is a democracy (is this changed to Paternal Autocrat in HOI2?) - so can't start anything!
So what suggestions for learning:
a) strengthen tech and army and wait for general war before fighting
b) strengthen just enough to take out Bulgaria (how much would I need?), then wait
c) ally with someone for extra techs, then wait (can I declare war on a minor if already in an alliance?)
Cirdan said:
I find I get bombed out. Takes the Germans a whle bu tthey can do it.
Had an interesting one recently where Austria didn't give in to the Anschulss and the Germans didn't push it. I ended up as a German ally and we carved up Austria, Hungary (DOW them quick) and Poland.
Garuda said:
A well managed Canada can annex Italy on it's on and more but yeah, it takes a lot of good managing, especially on manpower.
I had nice but hard games with China or Argentina.
CHINA
You start at war with the Communist and Japan is greater and more powerful than you, but.....
ARGENTINA
You can DOW Brazil at the beginning of game (early 36) [or Brazil can DOW Argentina]. If you win the war, you have a nice little empire (170 theorical IC if I remember well) and a lot of resources.
Your problem can be chossing the right alliance. If you choose the Axis, you shall defend all South American coast from England and Commonwealth and this is very hard....
CHINA
You start at war with the Communist and Japan is greater and more powerful than you, but.....
ARGENTINA
You can DOW Brazil at the beginning of game (early 36) [or Brazil can DOW Argentina]. If you win the war, you have a nice little empire (170 theorical IC if I remember well) and a lot of resources.
Your problem can be chossing the right alliance. If you choose the Axis, you shall defend all South American coast from England and Commonwealth and this is very hard....
I played my 2nd minor recently, first was Australia.
2nd was Brazil. I found it a bit boring.
I DW on firstly paraguay, then Columbia.
I had to save to avoid Monroe document events, but what had happened was that it agitated every other nation.
France had 100% support for war by May 1936, declared war on Germany.
Germany misses Spanish civil war, Anschluss and Sudentland bonuses.
France is vichied by november 1936, then Germnay DW on Russia.
Russia is into France by November 1941, and there's nothing left to play for except picking on Japan.
Australia however was fun, sending a small army to theatres all around the world.
I still prefer UK, having to combat every theatre between 1939-1941 by yourself.
2nd was Brazil. I found it a bit boring.
I DW on firstly paraguay, then Columbia.
I had to save to avoid Monroe document events, but what had happened was that it agitated every other nation.
France had 100% support for war by May 1936, declared war on Germany.
Germany misses Spanish civil war, Anschluss and Sudentland bonuses.
France is vichied by november 1936, then Germnay DW on Russia.
Russia is into France by November 1941, and there's nothing left to play for except picking on Japan.
Australia however was fun, sending a small army to theatres all around the world.
I still prefer UK, having to combat every theatre between 1939-1941 by yourself.
I played a game as Switzerland and attacked Germany when they were invading France...it didn't last long before i disappeared.. :rofl:
Nationalist China can be fun, turning a backwards farming nation into the most powerfull nation on earth.
I liked a lot playing as Brezil and Rep. Spain.
As the first one I created a great american empire; and with Spain, I won the civil war, then I joined the Commintern and fought the Germans and finally i declared war upon the Allies. It was wonderful to conquer Britain, France and Italy in this hard way!
As the first one I created a great american empire; and with Spain, I won the civil war, then I joined the Commintern and fought the Germans and finally i declared war upon the Allies. It was wonderful to conquer Britain, France and Italy in this hard way!
Argentina in the "road to war" scenario is lots of fun. Unfortunately when I tried it was before all the patches, so eventually my game crashed and refused to reload. But by that time I controlled most of South America (concentrating mainly on upgrading my infantry for this purpose) except for some parts of Brazil where the war was still going on. I was still bidding my time to see which side to join in the World War. Come to think of it, I should try this again one day.
Sweden can also be fun, except when I played I decided to declare war in aid of the Finns in the Winter War event... it didn't quite work out the way I had hoped LOL, but that mainly because at the time I did not know the Russians could cross into Sweden across that little Island (Marienham or something) between Sweden and Finnland so I was rather unprepared for that invasion and it was all over long before Germany ever declared war on the Soviets. But we did put up a good fight before the Soviets managed to raise about 100 divisions against our 30 or so.
Sweden can also be fun, except when I played I decided to declare war in aid of the Finns in the Winter War event... it didn't quite work out the way I had hoped LOL, but that mainly because at the time I did not know the Russians could cross into Sweden across that little Island (Marienham or something) between Sweden and Finnland so I was rather unprepared for that invasion and it was all over long before Germany ever declared war on the Soviets. But we did put up a good fight before the Soviets managed to raise about 100 divisions against our 30 or so.
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