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I am playing japan and have taken over most of china and for some reason my supply convoys are no longer bringing oil into the country?

I had the convoys handled by the computer at first but after having no oil in critical battles i took over manually. However, even with 100k oil in my stockpile at tokoyo i am using 200 convoys from the kagoshima to busan and 200 more from kagoshima to ghangzhui (sp? a chinese province on the south side) no oil arives. each day my troops grow more disorganized and i am losing the inititive. I have also checked carefully to see that I did not allow other resorce convoys to take oil off of the chinese mainland...

I am at a loss? any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Kanibal
 

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Do you have enough convoys for everything? Check to see if you have extra in your convoy pool.

The other solution is to cancel all of your convoys and then let the AI reset them. Just click on each convoy route (under the production screen) and cancel it. Then wait 2-3 days and see if that solves your problem.
 
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kanibal said:
I am playing japan and have taken over most of china and for some reason my supply convoys are no longer bringing oil into the country?

I had the convoys handled by the computer at first but after having no oil in critical battles i took over manually. However, even with 100k oil in my stockpile at tokoyo i am using 200 convoys from the kagoshima to busan and 200 more from kagoshima to ghangzhui (sp? a chinese province on the south side) no oil arives. each day my troops grow more disorganized and i am losing the inititive. I have also checked carefully to see that I did not allow other resorce convoys to take oil off of the chinese mainland...

I am at a loss? any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Kanibal


You gotta manually manage the convoys. Leaving the AI to manage it is like asking microsoft to take care of your computer for you.
 

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TheWretchedMass said:
You gotta manually manage the convoys. Leaving the AI to manage it is like asking microsoft to take care of your computer for you.

Well, I leave the convoys to the AI. Increases the challenge HoI2 offers, you see? :D
 

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TheWretchedMass is correct that the computer is useless in controlling convoys for almost any thing! I would question that a 200 size convoy would be able to carry enough supplies for a large number of units in China. You need to try and make it larger and check out a rough consuption rate per day of use by all units there. Note you can hover over a convoy list and check out what it shipped that day! Do you also have enough supplies in stock to transport over to China at time of shipping which is midnight if I rember correctly.

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To resolve this:

1) Turn off auto manage convoys, delete all your convoys, let time pass to past 0:00 hours. Save game and then reload. Turn back auto manage, let time pass to 0:00, turn auto manage back off. This last bit is so the computer starts up all your needed convoys for you to save you some time. You can manually set them up foregoing the auto setup if you like.

This typically resolves the problem although occasionally I have to repeat #1 through the course of the game.

Note: I always use manual convoys except to use auto manage to do initial setups.

2) Since my commonly played scenario for Japan is the '44 Gotterdamrung, I edit the adj-defs.csv in the map folder for an impassable link between Busan and Hiroshima. Assuming the Allies don't make some major landings this allows you to keep all the mainland supplied from Tokyo. Mind you, they often do make some serious landings forcing me to use convoys to supply areas.

Note: I only do this for this scenario because a few days without supplies can mean the loss of a front and the scenario :/


P.S. For those who think I am cheating for #2: Go ahead and beat the '44 scenario a few times as Japan without any effort on my Hard/Agg settings and then offer me some tips :) My win/loss ratio for this one is about 2 out of 5 because Germany always get spanked so quickly and the world turns to lil 'ol me with their combined might and my meager resources.
 

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Seeing as how I'm too lazy to micro manage convoys - I just keep building more and more. That generally helps. For some odd reasons, as your units move out of beach-heads their supply points occasionally shift, and it take time to catch up. But still- simple answer build more!!
 

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ecnan02 said:
Seeing as how I'm too lazy to micro manage convoys - I just keep building more and more. That generally helps. For some odd reasons, as your units move out of beach-heads their supply points occasionally shift, and it take time to catch up. But still- simple answer build more!!
Spawning more convoys and letting AI manage them is also my way of "handling" (if this could be called handle) the problem. Moreover, I even let AI manage my production sliders
 
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Spawning more convoys and letting AI manage them is also my way of "handling" (if this could be called handle) the problem. Moreover, I even let AI manage my production sliders

I agree, just build more supply convoys. Sadly, the AI might be horrible at it, but I would be much worse. I'd often forget that I needed to create convoys in the first place. I'd invade a little island with a few divisions and then come back to them in a few years to find little rogue Robinson Crusoes all over the place living in huts and eating each other. I tried to allow the AI to manage production, but that's something it really can't do properly. It is even worse than managing supplies. It is tedious, but every day, I check the production screen and adjust as necessary.
 

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Bismarck96 said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/116054152/1005.part1.rar I tried to allow the AI to manage production, but that's something it really can't do properly. It is even worse than managing supplies. It is tedious, but every day, I check the production screen and adjust as necessary.

Really? It works ok for me most of the time. What I do is trade for $ to get a surplus so the AI doesn't overproduce CG. I also check to prioritize reinforcements and if I have enough IC upgrades as well. The only time I don't do it is when I am building up supplies or am tweaking the daily dissent reduction.
 
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Really? It works ok for me most of the time. What I do is trade for $ to get a surplus so the AI doesn't overproduce CG. I also check to prioritize reinforcements and if I have enough IC upgrades as well. The only time I don't do it is when I am building up supplies or am tweaking the daily dissent reduction.

I do not allow any variation in the IC sliders. If the production slider only requires 23.04 IC, I allocate it to exactly 23.04 IC. I am frenetic like that. Perhaps I will revisit using the AI to manage production in the future, especially if HOI3 is that much more tasking.
 

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Bismarck96 said:
I do not allow any variation in the IC sliders. If the production slider only requires 23.04 IC, I allocate it to exactly 23.04 IC. I am frenetic like that. Perhaps I will revisit using the AI to manage production in the future, especially if HOI3 is that much more tasking.

It won't overspend on production, CG yes if not enough money is generated or traded for but never on production.
 
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earl of bronze said:
It won't overspend on production, CG yes if not enough money is generated or traded for but never on production.

Huh, then you must have a different version than I. The few times I did use it, I became very frustrated that it would waste IC needlessly.
 
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ecnan02 said:
Seeing as how I'm too lazy to micro manage convoys - I just keep building more and more. That generally helps. For some odd reasons, as your units move out of beach-heads their supply points occasionally shift, and it take time to catch up. But still- simple answer build more!!
Even if you build more the ai finds wasys to waste 400 of them on a place that needs 20
 

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ignore the recomended level keep adding convoys (manually) until the daily change isnt negative then add a little more for luck . also when your units invade or manually march in theres a good chance your depot moves and every thing gets screwed again .
 

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The solution I use is to build a minimum of 1000 convoy transports and 250 escorts at the very begining of the game...unless of course they are completely unnecessary (like say I'm playing ComChi or Brazil and I won't need convoys until later in the game).

I also flip back and forth between letting the AI manage the production sliders as well and even sometimes manage that differently. For example if my dissent is too high (over 20%) I'll produce only supplies, reinforcements and consumer goods all production and upgrades is put towards getting that dissent down. To cut down on waste I typically trade supplies for cash otherwise (or in a situation where I have resources but little IC resources for supplies and cash). Using CG for cash to pay your tech teams and your intelligence agency is a waste.

Otherwise I max out production and let the AI take care of the rest...unless I have a huge deficit in upgrades. Of course my typical game play style is of a "Quantity has a quality all its own" mentality. How else would you explain Italy having a Air force with 25 strategic bombers in 1945 and preparing to invade Republican Spain.