FRR Dislike?

[Flessar]

When I got involved in BT with MW2 Mercs the FRR was already a thing so I didn't get to see any of the table top opines about it, but since ive joined a multitude of groups over the decades since, ive heard in passing that some don't like its existence. Could any one answer why?

As exhaustive as possible please, and any tid bits of lore you can include would be helpful, I'm curious where this dislike comes from.

I know the dislike is nothing compared to our unified dislike and disdain for the trashborn clamers though

 

[Packrat]

People talk about the FRR? News to me. Mostly it's just kind of... there, and then almost immediately after it starts existing, it gets steamrolled into near-oblivion, so I don't see what it could have done to garner any genuine animosity.

 

[Prussian Havoc]

No FRR Dislike here.
And I'm even a Clan Trothkin!
: )

 

[Deaghaidh]

I always liked the FRR. My favorite Spheroid faction. Since they don't like Mercs I don't imagine we'll get many contracts for them, but if I get the chance to do them a solid I will.

I like that even though they got conquered, they got conquered by one of the better Clans who treated them fairly well. Arguably they wound up safer and stronger as the Ghost Bear Dominion than as a football for the Davions and Kuritas to fight over.

 

[Packrat]

Since they don't like Mercs I don't imagine we'll get many contracts for them, but if I get the chance to do them a solid I will.

I'm quite certain we won't be getting any contracts from them seeing as the FRR doesn't exist in 3025.

 

[Deaghaidh]

I'm quite certain we won't be getting any contracts from them seeing as the FRR doesn't exist in 3025.

Ah damn, you're right. I only came into Battletech via Mechwarrior 2, so anything much before the Clans is ancient to me.

 

[Brother Diogenes]

How can anybody not like the FRR? They're like the coreward cousins of the Taurian Concordat.

 

[Nichino]

I like them, and the 1st Tyr sounds fun. Although the extent of my knowledge is the "20 year update."

 

[WhiteChapel]

The only real problem I've heard from people is that the FRR comes out of the same cluster f&%# period as St Ives and the Chaos March. Just not a popular setting. But I never really heard any specific hate for the Rasas. Personally, I liked them more when they were part of the Combine, there was something cool about the space vikings working for the space samurai.

 

[Packrat]

Ah damn, you're right. I only came into Battletech via Mechwarrior 2, so anything much before the Clans is ancient to me.

I was also introduced to the setting during the Clan Invasion era. You'll find that 3025 is noticeably different in many ways, but is not without its own kind of charm.

 

[TaurianMerc]

The only real problem I've heard from people is that the FRR comes out of the same cluster f&%# period as St Ives and the Chaos March.

I hold no negative feelings towards any of them, quite the opposite it's nice to see change sometimes (even if thre is a need to constantly make botched reset attempts). I agree however the whole period was handled pretty poorly.

 

[Timaeus]

I've honestly can't think of anyone that dislikes the Space Vikings.

 

[Skoll-]

Rasalhague is just a small client state that honestly never had a chance. I don't know if it was by design or by accident but honestly was kind of a poor choice to give them their independence from the Dragon and then have the clans pop out right on top of them. Why bother going through the effort of creating a whole new faction and all that then?

Not only that but just to exist to get absorbed into a Clan.

 

[Tnarien]

Not only that but just to exist to get absorbed into a Clan.

This is...not entirely accurate. While the Ghost Bear Dominion does arise from the conquest of the bulk of the traditionally Rasalhaguean worlds, the resulting entity is much more of a cultural merger than it is an absorption. The Ghost Bears go to great pains to integrate Rasalhague cultural and civic traditions into the new society. Their views on family demanded nothing less.

Narratively speaking it's also incredibly important as it served as the forerunner of the myriad mixed societies that spring up in the late 31st and 32nd centuries as the non-Homeworld Clans begin to assimilate into the new reality of coexistence with their Spheroid brethren.

 

[Skoll-]

Would you rather have the FRR or the Rasalhague Dominion? I'd rather have the FRR, personally. Untainted by that Clanner garbage that shouldn't exist in the first place besides a need to have an absurdly overpowered antagonist.

 

[Tnarien]

Would you rather have the FRR or the Rasalhague Dominion? I'd rather have the FRR, personally. Untainted by that Clanner garbage that shouldn't exist in the first place besides a need to have an absurdly overpowered antagonist.

I'd rather have a fictional society that is narratively interesting but also pertinent. The FRR was irrelevent beyond being a speedbump for the Clan Invasion corridor (and also giving us Tyra). The Dominion is incredibly interesting, and relevant in the geo-politics of the post-Invasion Battletech universe.

 

[Skoll-]

FRR could have been very interesting if it were allowed to actually last and flourish. But alas, like you said it was nothing more than a speed bump for the ridiculous Clans. As for the post invasion? I think Battletech quickly went to hell afterwards. FedCom Civil War was between two wholly uninteresting factions before that and the Jihad existed simply to arbitrarily kill fan favorite characters so they could ??? time jump to the even worse thought out Dark Age.

 

[Prussian Havoc]

Fighting the Good but ill-fated Fight is a theme I can appreciated. And sometimes the universe is just not fair... especially the BattleTech universe. #RIPrasalhague, #RIPwolverines, #RIPcapellanpeople, #RIPjihadvictims, etc. :bow:

 

[WhiteChapel]

To be fair, there was going to be a Rasalhague Dominion once the Ghost Bears invaded that region, Rasalhague was the name of the Combine prefecture that predates the Republic. The question is did the independent state serve any point. Really, its just the end of War of 3039 and Tukayid.

 

[Deaghaidh]

To be fair, there was going to be a Rasalhague Dominion once the Ghost Bears invaded that region, Rasalhague was the name of the Combine prefecture that predates the Republic. The question is did the independent state serve any point. Really, its just the end of War of 3039 and Tukayid.

I suspect that when the writers created the FRR they hadn't decided to do the Clan invasion there yet.