From Glamorgan to Glory! A Celtic gameplay/humor AAR, includes screenshots
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Maybe, but I doubt i'd utilise any assasinations in such an attempt though, because Cadwgan is such a nice person, and Cai strikes me as too proud and such a great military genius he'd feel embarassed to stoop to such underhanded dealings, preferring honest military might, so the whole world can know of his victories. Maybe some later ruler though...
I am making plans to eventually depose the de Normandies in favour of some other claimant, as you may have guessed, and my stepdaughter Almodis is 10th in line for the French throne (and her deceased brother Charles' children before her)... I've stated a Celtic Empire as my goal, but i'm not going to have that stop me from influencing power politics in my own neighbourhood or Europe in general, or going crusading once I have the money and manpower. If I would, at least there would appear some crusader states...
Maybe, but I doubt i'd utilise any assasinations in such an attempt though, because Cadwgan is such a nice person, and Cai strikes me as too proud and such a great military genius he'd feel embarassed to stoop to such underhanded dealings, preferring honest military might, so the whole world can know of his victories. Maybe some later ruler though...
I am making plans to eventually depose the de Normandies in favour of some other claimant, as you may have guessed, and my stepdaughter Almodis is 10th in line for the French throne (and her deceased brother Charles' children before her)... I've stated a Celtic Empire as my goal, but i'm not going to have that stop me from influencing power politics in my own neighbourhood or Europe in general, or going crusading once I have the money and manpower. If I would, at least there would appear some crusader states...
Celtic Empire?
OK. I can understand everything on that map. Except one thing.
How the hell did those celts get to the middle of Anatolia?!
Here is a map that actually has the expanse of the Celts in different times.
But I was thinking more about ruling the lands that actually are celtish at the time (plus kicking the Norwegians and Danes out of Scotland and the Isles), and then some small buffer zones to attempt to spread the cultures a bit (so take a bite out of England, and from the France-Brittany border).
Plus I could intervene on behalf of the Portuguese, for example
But I was thinking more about ruling the lands that actually are celtish at the time (plus kicking the Norwegians and Danes out of Scotland and the Isles), and then some small buffer zones to attempt to spread the cultures a bit (so take a bite out of England, and from the France-Brittany border).
Plus I could intervene on behalf of the Portuguese, for example
TCTS Part 2: Persons of Note at the Time of the First Crusade
Finally, we're ready to begin our review of the high and mighty of Europe! Nevermind that, actually, they're mostly boring old sacks. We'll have some of the more interesting kings and such, but mostly we'll be trying to find people who stand out somehow.
First up, we have the King of Castille, who's really been going with that Reconquista, in addition to gaining the crown of Leon from his brother somehow. Despite not being that horrible a person, it seems the pope has excommunicated him. The reason could be that he's friends with the Shi'ite King of Tlemcen. Or that he's friends with the Archbishop of Ferrara.
Who, on the other hand, is a heretic, despite seeming like a decent type for a bishop. You will recall that Ferrara is one of the minor independent Italian states.
Continuing with minor Italian states, we have the Republic of Pisa, ruled by another excommunicated chap. The pope really doesn't like his neighbours. This guy is fabulously rich, though.
Moving on to another excommunicated minor, we have this Anglo-Saxon count, ruling in Sweden. No idea why.
Ah, "the Wolf". Looks like the de Normandies let someone else manage their true home, and hey presto, heresy AND excommunication, a combination that's been surprisingly rare so far.
The Irish don't bother with heresy, they just like to kill family members, it seems. I make a mental note of these two, especially the Count of the Isle of Man. While he has a terrifying reputation as a general, I'd wager my boy Cai could take him on. And people shouldn't object too much if his lands came under the rule of someone more civilised and, well, nice.
On the other hand, Gospatrick Junior here is Anglo-Saxon, and excommunicated on grounds of heresy. Maybe it's something special, only reserved for Anglo-Saxons. The inquisition really has been going about... All this has his liege and father rather depressed (as a reminder, Lothian has recently broken off from the Kingdom of Scotland). At 59, Gospatrick Senior isn't likely to live very long.
Finally, our tour takes us to the root of all this heresy, or at least the accusations and excommunications. The Just (at least what people say to his face), yet vengeful, stubborn and proud Pope Cangrande da Romano. Despite priding himself on his celibacy, he is known to have sired one bastard, who died before reaching his first birthday.
Besides the Pope, the Papal Controller, the King of Poland, is also a bit of an extremist. While crusading has gotten him severely wounded, he remains an active proponen of the still-ongoing, occasionally successful crusade to Alexandria. I don't remember hearing of any Polish troops there, though...
More crusaders (at least in name)! The Bretons have taken up the cross.
As has the hunchbacked Norman King of Sicily. Smart move on his part, looking at how the Pope has treated his other Italian neighbours.
Ah yes, we don't want to forget the last so-far-unmentioned minor Italian state. The Republic of Venice is ruled by a 14-year-old. And it seems Venice is interested in the ruins of old Carthage, and looks to establish a new trading port there.
Now for the just plain weird, in the northern seas: Shetland and Vestisland are ruled by German and Polish bishops, respectively (the previous Bishop of Vestisland was German).
...and Austisland is ruled by a Swedish pagan, the Chief of Western Sames.
A well-regarded, diplomatically skilled and well-educated Knytling is the King of Denmark.
This is Jakob Knudsson Knytling, the Duke of Skåne. A brilliant strategist. Something is wrong with the world, for sure.
Remember when Nubia was conquered by the Muslims? The Dongolas fled into exile, but this guy and his two nearly identical brothers aren't them, just some impostors, leeching off the friendship the Count of Suenik has always shown to Nubia. Being depressed and blind must suck, though.
Aggelesko is the true heir to the throne of Nubia, now sadly lost for all time, and the sole descendant of the Dongolas.
Last but definitely not least, the Count of Suenik and his massive brood. Especially of interest is the fact that all but one of his sisters are dressed identically, and the same with his daughters. That's some chauvinistic regime he's running. He's gone through 6 wives, the 4th of which was Anna Doukas, the grandniece of Konstantinos Doukas, a late Emperor of Byzantium. The 5th was a Komnenos, and the 6th was a younger sister of his 4th wife. His dynasty isn't at risk, just his realm, as he has vassals of both the Cumans and the Seljuks on his borders. They seem to have left him mostly alone so far.
First up, we have the King of Castille, who's really been going with that Reconquista, in addition to gaining the crown of Leon from his brother somehow. Despite not being that horrible a person, it seems the pope has excommunicated him. The reason could be that he's friends with the Shi'ite King of Tlemcen. Or that he's friends with the Archbishop of Ferrara.
Who, on the other hand, is a heretic, despite seeming like a decent type for a bishop. You will recall that Ferrara is one of the minor independent Italian states.
Continuing with minor Italian states, we have the Republic of Pisa, ruled by another excommunicated chap. The pope really doesn't like his neighbours. This guy is fabulously rich, though.
Moving on to another excommunicated minor, we have this Anglo-Saxon count, ruling in Sweden. No idea why.
Ah, "the Wolf". Looks like the de Normandies let someone else manage their true home, and hey presto, heresy AND excommunication, a combination that's been surprisingly rare so far.
The Irish don't bother with heresy, they just like to kill family members, it seems. I make a mental note of these two, especially the Count of the Isle of Man. While he has a terrifying reputation as a general, I'd wager my boy Cai could take him on. And people shouldn't object too much if his lands came under the rule of someone more civilised and, well, nice.
On the other hand, Gospatrick Junior here is Anglo-Saxon, and excommunicated on grounds of heresy. Maybe it's something special, only reserved for Anglo-Saxons. The inquisition really has been going about... All this has his liege and father rather depressed (as a reminder, Lothian has recently broken off from the Kingdom of Scotland). At 59, Gospatrick Senior isn't likely to live very long.
Finally, our tour takes us to the root of all this heresy, or at least the accusations and excommunications. The Just (at least what people say to his face), yet vengeful, stubborn and proud Pope Cangrande da Romano. Despite priding himself on his celibacy, he is known to have sired one bastard, who died before reaching his first birthday.
Besides the Pope, the Papal Controller, the King of Poland, is also a bit of an extremist. While crusading has gotten him severely wounded, he remains an active proponen of the still-ongoing, occasionally successful crusade to Alexandria. I don't remember hearing of any Polish troops there, though...
More crusaders (at least in name)! The Bretons have taken up the cross.
As has the hunchbacked Norman King of Sicily. Smart move on his part, looking at how the Pope has treated his other Italian neighbours.
Ah yes, we don't want to forget the last so-far-unmentioned minor Italian state. The Republic of Venice is ruled by a 14-year-old. And it seems Venice is interested in the ruins of old Carthage, and looks to establish a new trading port there.
Now for the just plain weird, in the northern seas: Shetland and Vestisland are ruled by German and Polish bishops, respectively (the previous Bishop of Vestisland was German).
...and Austisland is ruled by a Swedish pagan, the Chief of Western Sames.
A well-regarded, diplomatically skilled and well-educated Knytling is the King of Denmark.
This is Jakob Knudsson Knytling, the Duke of Skåne. A brilliant strategist. Something is wrong with the world, for sure.
Remember when Nubia was conquered by the Muslims? The Dongolas fled into exile, but this guy and his two nearly identical brothers aren't them, just some impostors, leeching off the friendship the Count of Suenik has always shown to Nubia. Being depressed and blind must suck, though.
Aggelesko is the true heir to the throne of Nubia, now sadly lost for all time, and the sole descendant of the Dongolas.
Last but definitely not least, the Count of Suenik and his massive brood. Especially of interest is the fact that all but one of his sisters are dressed identically, and the same with his daughters. That's some chauvinistic regime he's running. He's gone through 6 wives, the 4th of which was Anna Doukas, the grandniece of Konstantinos Doukas, a late Emperor of Byzantium. The 5th was a Komnenos, and the 6th was a younger sister of his 4th wife. His dynasty isn't at risk, just his realm, as he has vassals of both the Cumans and the Seljuks on his borders. They seem to have left him mostly alone so far.
Yay for the update (finally)! Thought i'd try what this would look like centered, since i've varied with the style of these specials anyway.
Gave a warning after the last one that i'd be busy the coming weekend. Turns out the first half of the next week was busy too, and then I was abroad (carnival in Mainz!), and this week was busy two, with two exams. Now the situation has normalised itself somewhat, so part 3 shouldn't take too long. Or at least not two weeks.
Gave a warning after the last one that i'd be busy the coming weekend. Turns out the first half of the next week was busy too, and then I was abroad (carnival in Mainz!), and this week was busy two, with two exams. Now the situation has normalised itself somewhat, so part 3 shouldn't take too long. Or at least not two weeks.
Awesome AAR! I like playing Welsh or Irish minors: the possibilities are endless! (Actually, they tend to end where England/Scotland begin, but that's besides the point). Have you thought of taking Iceland? It's usually split and without alliance- perfect for a bit of conquest, you know, just for fun.
What mod are you using. I cant seem to find the Kingdom of Brittany, no matter how hard I try.
Johan11: DVIP, DVIP-Wales, and I think all the other DVIP add-ons too.
You should get Brittany, Lotharingia, Aquitania, Andalus, Lotharingia and Mann and the Isles as creatable Kingdoms (not existing at 1066, and probably not in any other scenario start either) with just DVIP.
Serek000: Well, in retrospect I think the reason William excommed me at the start was simply that I was bordering him at the time. But the way to get around England/Scotland is to conquer Ireland first, and preferably then Scotland. Although, if an English or Scottish king ever gives away most of his demesne and only leaves 1 or 2 provinces for himself, it shouldn't be that hard to blitzsiege him and get what you want in the peace.
And like I just mentioned, Austisland is under pagan control. It's just pretty damn expensive to sail to.
You should get Brittany, Lotharingia, Aquitania, Andalus, Lotharingia and Mann and the Isles as creatable Kingdoms (not existing at 1066, and probably not in any other scenario start either) with just DVIP.
Serek000: Well, in retrospect I think the reason William excommed me at the start was simply that I was bordering him at the time. But the way to get around England/Scotland is to conquer Ireland first, and preferably then Scotland. Although, if an English or Scottish king ever gives away most of his demesne and only leaves 1 or 2 provinces for himself, it shouldn't be that hard to blitzsiege him and get what you want in the peace.
And like I just mentioned, Austisland is under pagan control. It's just pretty damn expensive to sail to.
TCTS Part 3: The family tree, and a few comments
Ah, there we have it, the full family tree of all the descendants of Owain Morgan. Not quite as neat as the last version, but the tapestry weavers had to save some space with some creative rearranging.
Just a few quick comments on the extended family, as I'm itching to get back to the real thing, that is the 12th century and what it will bring!
Diligent examining will already have let you see that both Cai and Hawis are married to their 3rd cousins from the Aberteifi family. This actually makes their children 4th cousins from both their mothers' and fathers' sides of the family, as well as 1st cousins in a similar manner because Arddyn and Ednowain are siblings as well. The relation is sufficiently distant that Papal dispensation wasn't necessary, nor does there seem to be any chance of inbred children.
While both the de Bourgognes (including Sybille's children from her first marriage, and Helie, Caradogs wife) and Julienne Capet are or belong to a cadet branch of the French royal family, I have succeeded in marrying some relatives to various Counts and Dukes around Europe. Adda Maeilienydd, hailing from Cymri and now promoted to Duke of Carinthia, has been mentioned already, but in addition Iestyns youngest daughter Nest is married to the Occitan Count of Zaragoza. In addition, a Llancarfan girl is the happy wife of a younger son of the Count of Leon (in Brittany, not to be confused with the Spanish Kingdom of León).
And let's not forget Cicely and Harold:
The Normans have driven him away from his throne, but we may just have something to say about that in the future.
I don't have much say anymore in how Cai marries off his children, but Fychan and Julienne are already expecting, and I have two daughters coming of age in the next two years or so. It looks like i'll still get some use for those marriage negotiation skills...
Ah, there we have it, the full family tree of all the descendants of Owain Morgan. Not quite as neat as the last version, but the tapestry weavers had to save some space with some creative rearranging.
Just a few quick comments on the extended family, as I'm itching to get back to the real thing, that is the 12th century and what it will bring!
Diligent examining will already have let you see that both Cai and Hawis are married to their 3rd cousins from the Aberteifi family. This actually makes their children 4th cousins from both their mothers' and fathers' sides of the family, as well as 1st cousins in a similar manner because Arddyn and Ednowain are siblings as well. The relation is sufficiently distant that Papal dispensation wasn't necessary, nor does there seem to be any chance of inbred children.
While both the de Bourgognes (including Sybille's children from her first marriage, and Helie, Caradogs wife) and Julienne Capet are or belong to a cadet branch of the French royal family, I have succeeded in marrying some relatives to various Counts and Dukes around Europe. Adda Maeilienydd, hailing from Cymri and now promoted to Duke of Carinthia, has been mentioned already, but in addition Iestyns youngest daughter Nest is married to the Occitan Count of Zaragoza. In addition, a Llancarfan girl is the happy wife of a younger son of the Count of Leon (in Brittany, not to be confused with the Spanish Kingdom of León).
And let's not forget Cicely and Harold:
The Normans have driven him away from his throne, but we may just have something to say about that in the future.
I don't have much say anymore in how Cai marries off his children, but Fychan and Julienne are already expecting, and I have two daughters coming of age in the next two years or so. It looks like i'll still get some use for those marriage negotiation skills...
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...And i'm done.
Not really though
I just realised Morgan (ap Iestyn) Morgan is married with children. I'm not going to redo the family tree above (I blame the weavers, they must've got tired and thought I wouldn't notice one family missing), as the rearranging takes time and it's just way too wide/tall an image to view sensibly otherwise.
Instead, here's a more compact fan-chart. You'll note that Hawis' and Cais families are doubled due to the abovementioned double descent.
Continuing with normal updates next week!
P.S. I also started thinking that it should be technically feasible to make a program that would search the save file for characters from a certain dynasty tag, and grab their birth/death(&marriage?) information. That'd give a male-line family tree already (ignoring female line descendants, but including the girls themselves). Too bad i'm not that good at coding, only having taken 2 basic courses.
To be honest though, i'm hoping CK2 will have a family-tree feature in-game already (or so you could export a file into a family-tree program).
Not really though
I just realised Morgan (ap Iestyn) Morgan is married with children. I'm not going to redo the family tree above (I blame the weavers, they must've got tired and thought I wouldn't notice one family missing), as the rearranging takes time and it's just way too wide/tall an image to view sensibly otherwise.
Instead, here's a more compact fan-chart. You'll note that Hawis' and Cais families are doubled due to the abovementioned double descent.
Continuing with normal updates next week!
P.S. I also started thinking that it should be technically feasible to make a program that would search the save file for characters from a certain dynasty tag, and grab their birth/death(&marriage?) information. That'd give a male-line family tree already (ignoring female line descendants, but including the girls themselves). Too bad i'm not that good at coding, only having taken 2 basic courses.
To be honest though, i'm hoping CK2 will have a family-tree feature in-game already (or so you could export a file into a family-tree program).
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It took me time to catch up and my reaction is late but it is good to see that Alan Fergant became a crusader as in real life. Things that happened in real life are seldom seen in CKSnaake said:
More crusaders (at least in name)! The Bretons have taken up the cross.
. The Irish kinslayers are interesting and Western Sames has moved far to the West.EDIT: Check Subterranean family-tree maker (discussion and download threads).
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