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I'm kind of busy with something right now and its gonna take awhile.... so I don't think I'll be able to meet you guys at 8 EST. I'll try to be there by 8:30 but don't count on it.
 

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Lady Europa said:
Fuck you Lamprey

thanks for wasting my time, when you grow up and don't have little tantrums cos people don't agree to your rules then I'll play with you again :mad:

Europa, we are about to start a new game with Longstreet, Warchaser and
Marius. Would like you to come back to Vnet, if you don't mind
 
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Well, it's a shame that Lampy got scared when I switched to UK for
balance of powers and banned me.

I beleive it's not fair to have human Russia and AI UK or UK ruled
by some random subs. OK, good luck and have fun with this host
 

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If Sweden lost divisions during the war with Egypt, then I won't be playing anymore. I've risked so much to play with you guys and if the AI lost most of my army to Egypt, then it won't be fun for me anymore.
 

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I got some problems,

My histroical events aren't firing as they should... :( No Oregon treaty, no revolt in Canada etc :(
 

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Talley, he banned you because you were cheating with technology.
Somel ring a bell? :eek:

Funeling money into the OE, and then giving it free techs with a duped name is just so low...

I'd rather play with a "bad" host than a cheater.
 

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I'm not sure how I was a bad host. Every time we rehosted "some1" would play a different country, even non-viable ones like S-P which's been half eaten by Austria, and never say anything. And diplo-deal with the OE. Meanwhile Talley's been fighting tooth & nail to allow tech trading while his OE now leads the world in tech advancement. In the end, both "some1" and Talley left together. Was "some1" Talley on another computer, feeding himself technology & cash? I suppose we'll never know. But I have to admit that I don't feel heartbroken over banning Talley from this game.
 

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I have no idea. Wasn't watching Sweden. We didn't play all that long though, so in all likelihood the war's still going on.
 

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Lamprey said:
I'm not sure how I was a bad host. Every time we rehosted "some1" would play a different country, even non-viable ones like S-P which's been half eaten by Austria, and never say anything. And diplo-deal with the OE. Meanwhile Talley's been fighting tooth & nail to allow tech trading while his OE now leads the world in tech advancement. In the end, both "some1" and Talley left together. Was "some1" Talley on another computer, feeding himself technology & cash? I suppose we'll never know. But I have to admit that I don't feel heartbroken over banning Talley from this game.

Well, it's typical. If a player wants to get rid of an undesireable adversary
just accuse him of something. The easiest way to eliminate competitors
who you dislike or afraid of.

Why did I pay USA for techs if I could get them free? Why did I offer
TPs in Africa to Prussia for interchangable parts if I could have it from
my double and didn't have to lose colonies? Why did I offer money to the
French for their techs if it wasn't necessary to waste cash for getting
techs?

And if I was that some1 why did I abandon advanced Great Britain and
took non-viable S-P which had neither money nor useful techs? If I was
some1 why did I insisted to play backward Egypt?

By the way, my OE never concluded a deal with S-P or Spain ruled by
that guy.

The answer is I wasn't dual. And your accusation, Lampy, is just
ridiculous. It's just your vengeance for being strongly opposed to
your rule offers
 
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Lamprey said:
In the end, both "some1" and Talley left together...
But I have to admit that I don't feel heartbroken over banning Talley from this game.

Probably you banned him too if he left the channel immediately
after me :)

It's obvious that the reason why you banned me was my
switching to UK for the sake of balance in the campaign.
And now you are trying to justify yourself for banning other
players. ;)
 

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J. Longstreet said:
I'd rather play with a "bad" host than a cheater.

No, Longstreet, Lamprey not a bad host at all. Maybe his
hosting capability is the best so far. That's why he attracts
so many players to the games where he hosts. That's why
the others forgive Lamprey being an hour late. But once
a better host found (it's gonna happen sooner or later)
lamprey will definitely lose a lot of his popularity due to his
arrogant attitude toward other players :p
 

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Actually, it wasn't me who suggested that Talley cheated - it's not important who did - and it simply seemed like the most likely hypothesis after everyone else chimed in with their thoughts. As nobody has any proof we'll never know for sure. It might very well be that some1 never spoke during the game because he didn't speak English, and that he decided to play a wrecked S-P because he didn't know any better.

Only person I ever kicked was Talley for being stubborn, fact that some1 left without a word right after Talley came back and said his piece before leaving could very well have been a coincidence. Couldn't it?

As for people flocking to my games, I'd really love for a trend like that to develop, but this game is the first large MP game I ever hosted (EA is hosted by Raph) so I think it's too soon to tell ;) Still, thanks for your endorsement of my connection/computer combo. I just got a cable modem installed today that's supposed to be 2-3x faster upstream, so here's hoping our next Friday session will have even less lag! (I'd appreciate if someone or a few someones would like to get together during the week and test it for lag.)

Anyway, we did have a fun session after Talley left, and I'm really looking forward to our next one. We've had 2 peaceful sessions so far, other than Russia/France battling rebels all over Prussia and Austria in the interest of keeping the damn liberals down, and I can't help but wonder when will a war break out - and between who? :rofl:
 

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Actually, it wasn't me who suggested that Talley cheated - it's not important who did - and it simply seemed like the most likely hypothesis after everyone else chimed in with their thoughts. As nobody has any proof we'll never know for sure. It might very well be that some1 never spoke during the game because he didn't speak English, and that he decided to play a wrecked S-P because he didn't know any better.

Only person I ever kicked was Talley for being stubborn, fact that some1 left without a word right after Talley came back and said his piece before leaving could very well have been a coincidence. Couldn't it?

As for people flocking to my games, I'd really love for a trend like that to develop, but this game is the first large MP game I ever hosted (EA is hosted by Raph) so I think it's too soon to tell ;) Still, thanks for your endorsement of my connection/computer combo. I just got a cable modem installed today that's supposed to be 2-3x faster upstream, so here's hoping our next Friday session will have even less lag! (I'd appreciate if someone or a few someones would like to get together during the week and test it for lag.)

Anyway, we did have a fun session after Talley left, and I'm really looking forward to our next one. We've had 2 peaceful sessions so far, other than Russia/France battling rebels all over Prussia and Austria in the interest of keeping the damn liberals down, and I can't help but wonder when will a war break out - and between who? :rofl:

No matter who suggested there was cheating but such an accusation
should be based on convincing facts not on conjectures. Think twice
before you blame others.

As for Lamprey, he's GM of this campaign and decides who's allowed
to play. But it wasn't necessary to extend yourself to ban. You could just
ask to leave :)
 

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Lamprey said:
Meanwhile Talley's been fighting tooth & nail to allow tech trading while his OE now leads the world in tech advancement. In the end, both "some1" and Talley left together. Was "some1" Talley on another computer, feeding himself technology & cash? I suppose we'll never know.

Technically, there was never any accusations made. Just stated questions that were on people's minds ;) Bummer that you took it as an accusation...
 

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Actually I believe Lady Europa told us about a guy she played with in EU that had a dual account at the same time he was in a game. Then everybody remembered talley's shady activies like the required tech trades and those somel/some1 guys. Neither of them talked and they each picked a different nation everytime we rehosted. I also pointed out that he had 7 more techs than Sweden (In fact, the OE even had some techs that it didn't have the prerequisites for, I have an screenshot if you don't believe me). I know I got the repeating tech bug, but OE having 7 more techs then Sweden is still a lot. Right after talley left the OE AI also passed the 150 industry mark and became #5 GP, it was only #7 or 8 while he was actually controlling it.
 

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sanmartin said:
Hey, I *should* be able to make it next Friday. If you need players for some other time, I can do that too.

GreaT! Drop by on Friday we have a spot for you :)
 

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Definitely drop by Friday, I know OE/UK are well off as of now and would benefit from a human player; not sure about Spain. Would you be able to make a commitment to a weekly session, be a permanent player for one of those countries?