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Sanmartin, there are all the Italian nations left, but you probably don't want to be Sardinia-Peidemonte as our Austria had to carve it up. :D

Lamprey, isn't making trading techs a major part of diplomacy? If you don't want to, its your call, but isn't it an important part of the game?
 

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Lady Europa said:
Whats the debate about? :confused:


The dabate is about the following



Lamprey said:
I'd like to propose a new rule for our game, NO tech trading allowed between players. It exploits the system as it allows people to gain tech without spending the RP for it.

Ta11eyrand said:
It's personal business of every player to sell/buy/trade techs or not.
If it's useful for both contarctors no sense to refrain from that

Lamprey said:
Talley, the reason you didn't want to refrain from it was the reason your game folded, which is why I'm interested in getting this out in the open and hashed out before Friday. Don't want the same thing happening to mine.

Bear in mind I'm not doing this to increase my country's stock as I'm Russia; the one country in Europe that would benefit the most from exploiting the tech trade system. I'm only interested in instutiting this rule to keep the game fair for everyone. Obviously getting technologies for free without paying the penalty is useful to everyone, but it is an exploit nevertheless and I'd prefer to keep the game clean.

J.Longstreet said:
Lamprey, isn't making trading techs a major part of diplomacy? If you don't want to, its your call, but isn't it an important part of the game?
 

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i'm not sure yet, but i may be attending a local sporting event on friday, at 7:30 PM MDT (thats 9:30PM EST). i may not have alot of time to play if this happens, unless i end up staying home, or we start the session earlier than usual... i'll keep y'all posted, with a definite answer as to my friday schedule on thursday
 

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Tech trading will lengthen the tech gap between Sweden and every other nation even more..... hell I bet even the OE has more techs then I do.
 

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In this case tech sharing would be useful for Sweden and OE both.
Sweden has annexed most of the Arabian peninsula. Why not to give
those provinces to OE for techs?

I presume those moslem provinces were annexed by AI Sweden and
not very much valuable for the country. In this case tech sharing
would help to correct the mistake comitted by AI
 
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Lord Warchaser said:
How long did you guys play without me? I fear Sweden might not be playable after having been ruled by the AI for too long. I already fucked up big time in the beginning with the tech thing and then losing all my transports against Russia, so if there aren't any playable nations left I don't think I'll be joining you guys.

Sweden is still quite viable in my opinion
 

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The OE isn't played by a human and I annexed those provinces so I could trade them later for claims the OE AI had.
 

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What if we restrict tech trading to 1 tech per 10 years per nation or soemthing?

just a suggestion...
 

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i say just leave it up to everyone's personal discretion, i myself don't necessarily do that much tech trading, in fact i don't think i've done a single tech trade yet in this game, that i can recall...
 

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Gaius Marius I said:
i say just leave it up to everyone's personal discretion, i myself don't necessarily do that much tech trading, in fact i don't think i've done a single tech trade yet in this game, that i can recall...

Very good idea to leave it to everybody's personal discretion. Totally
agree with it.

I believe that tech trading has its natural limitations and doesn't
require any artificial unnatural restrictions on it
 

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I'd have to agree with keeping trading as it is. I don't trade much technologly, but if i needed to/would benefit greatly from it I wouldn't like the rule at al ><

But, Lamprey as host its his decision, and i'll follow i, whatever it is.
 

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But Lamprey says he OFFERS the rule, but not imposes his will on
the other players. If I get him wrong find another player for OE
or let it be AI.

I am not going to participate in a campaign with inappropriate
rules. Better to find another host
 

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I am not going to participate in a campaign with inappropriate
rules. Better to find another host

He didn't acually say he was imposing the rule. I doubt he will if reaction is so negative.
 

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J. Longstreet said:
He didn't acually say he was imposing the rule. I doubt he will if reaction is so negative.

Yah democracy rules in a good MP game :)