Sterkarm said:
Pibe, in your opinion I may have had no pretext to invading Russia, but do you have one for colonizing (prior to ToT)? Did the OE have any "pretext" to invade my country? Did Sweden have a "pretext" to take ingermanland from my vassal? No, neither Sweden nor the OE did, but I neither complained nor cared, because I realize it's part of the game. Habs attacked me because it was in his interests to see a strong Sweden and a weak Poland. I attacked Russia because it was in my interests to have a weak Russia who could not challenge my power..
What has colonization got to be with you annexing a human country? Port and Spain usually reach its colonies before everyone. My Port was a lot quicker than anybody and I used ToT as an excuse to have them all, with or without using my strenght. What were your justifications? You clairly haven't roleplayed, and you still play in that way. If you think dowing with no justification is fair (preheventive wars), then expect me to do so someday, eye for an eye. No matter which game you played with me, you gained a reputation in Eu2 and I will exploit it. Stop ruining some players' fun and then I surely will respect you.
Oe and Sweden had a pretext, you! your reputation and your constant shits in this campaign. Don't expect less than a dowing or insults. In any case they followed BoP, you were pro-spanish and that's a pretext as well. hehe Sterk such argument makes me think you have no idea about this game, really, you're acting lame without considering others except your own fun, then using such weak arguments without considering their respective contexts, pathetic. Don't come after this saying you were in your right to dow Russia, you're in your right, but then causing them to fall their gov because you asked a manu province, and the most wealthy provs no matter if you had land connection, i saw that as clear: not to weak, to destroy!
Sterkarm said:
Personally Pibe, I think it's just because you don't like me that you're saying I shouldn't get anything. We both know that I don't like you and you don't like me. You've consistently insulted me again and again, and personally I can see why you've been banned from games; not for arguing, but for your constant disregard for others and cursing at anything that you don't like. It's ironic that you're calling me a "teenager who cares nothing about other players' fun", but you're always starting arguments. Not for your actions in the game, but for what you say in and out of the game. Learn to deal with others besides insulting most of them..
I care a shit if i like you or not
I don't like some attitudes. sorry if you have a fragile personality not to accept reality. What you consider it's an insult? maybe you just detected a flamey way to express things, unfortunately for you I'm not as hypocritical as you're, not to mention you use to lie a lot. I, myself, am not perfect, but i can assure I'm a better person than you since I respect others more, and I cause less shits in game than you, I'd add I don't lie a lot as you do, do you really care anything else different from your own interests things? cuz I do, that's why i play during nights without missing a session, i do respect times (that's a way to respect others) and i do care if a player is unhappy with some situations.
I was banned in some "games"? only one and I will offer more details about that, not like you who ommited some important remarkations in order to support easy refutable arguments. But first, I'd like to make clear some shits you stated up there.
I don't cosider myself a great dealer, neither a good politician since politicians use to hide things in order to convince others, I hate hypocritical attitudes and to hide things. For example, if a Gm set rules it's supposed they should be respected, in the only game i was banned, Gm re-interpretated those rules in order to win a war. Frankly you can't say a shit about it since you left the campaign before (in an interesting way i will explain later)
However you showed you're a "teenager who cares nothing about other players' fun", you haven't defended your attitude (if it's defensible, thing i doubt) instead you opted to attacked me with things like "you're always starting arguments. Not for your actions in the game, but for what you say in and out of the game" funny, because I only refered to your actions without considering "IFs" or especulations.
Sterkarm said:
Pibe, this all started when you were playing Russia and I was playing Poland in Dishonor before Death. I took two provs from you (Ufa and Samara) because you broke our agreement that the Golden Horde would be off-limits for a certain amount of time. Then, no surprise, you started cussing, yelling, and making all sorts of threats in my direction. I didn't mind losing in the next war, only the constant bragging and talking about it by yourself afterwards. And no, I did not leave because I lost the war, I left because the game was at a time quite hard for me to play (I haven't played any Sunday games since then, interferes with mass) and frankly I also decided that playing with you wasn't worth having a lot of time conflictions with church. While being a gracious loser is important, being a gracious winner is far more important. I have said nothing inflammatory towards Card. Granted, I was quite mad at him sometimes for the things he said about me, but I could understand why he said them and I continued to play the game without letting it influence me..
Again, you chose to lie instead of telling everybody the truth. Can you please post such agreement here? have I publicly accepted in game? No, you just lied, or autoconvinced yourself, dunno, in any case, can someone trust you as Russia? hehe i think no. Then you stated that after "accepting" such treaty I insulted/threatened you in public? c'mon Sterk, why i would accept a treaty then insulting you after it? you're autoconvincing yourself you're God, the one who is right, bullshits Sterk. I will sum it up. I was Russia, I denied to respect GH as your future claim, I was dow (hold for 5 years with 100 percent in order to cause me a civil, caused me inflation in those years to make Russia unplayable, then forced to peace by the GM when he saw I was right. I took GH, and I was redowed again for those provinces i took including a gold mine (that's a fair thing considering I was defeated) then when i had land 9 everything changed, now I was in the offensive and you were the only one threatening publicly and saying shits like "Russia had a treaty with Poland and i should be forced to respect it" lol, annoying, don't you feel shame? I started to use "my so bad capability to deal" :rofl: with others to take Lith and Poland, ohh noticed I was successful, then you just lost interest? you left? i think you did, were you forced to? nop, i think you were affected like me, why leaving for then? cuz you felt useless, defeated, humiliated, you Poland was a 26% inflation country in 1540! you took an event of 8% inflation because you concentrated in me instead of playing long term, etc, the list is large pal.
You stated in you post you quitted because times problems, our wars/your shits in Poland weren't a factor? c'mon! you quitted that game for obvious reasons then you jumped as Poland in another game... listen to me church boy =) God won't help you in this, he doesn't exist anyway. I have times troubles as well, I'd say I'm a lot busier than you, I'm in the university and i do pass my exams, considering I'm playing at 4am Cet I'm quite surprised. If you prefer to waste your time in church go ahead!
"gracious loser" :rofl: no comment, what you did to Card is a lot more "no comment"
Sterkarm said:
And don't bring Daed's absence into question, I'd rather play one session with Daed than a full game with you. Just because you haven't missed many sessions doesn't mean you're "dedicated", it means you have the most flexible schedule. Personally, I don't have a very flexible schedule, and neither does Daed. You've ruined quite a few people's fun, I can't speak for anyone in this game except for myself, but you've been banned from quite a few games, by respected players who in turn show respect to others..
"And don't bring Daed's absence into question" lol, looking for symphaty to bring a fog into others' capability of reason? you felt a lot down there.
I'm not dedicated? I have a flexible schedule? you lie again. you defend a guy you don't know? I remind everyone Daed gave us his confirmation last session and he dishonored with no justification. Can you please post when i ruined others' fun? when, how, what? please, post, if you can't then i must suppose you can't defend such lie, instead I pointed out when you do so and many ppl can confirm that.
If you "can't speak for anyone except" yourself, then why you use Daed to make an argumentation? again, can you post those games i was banned? only one? and others? I was banned when i refused to peace out a war GM considered it was illegal, Austria was -99 warcores, I was russia and i dowed Oe to defend them, I was rescuing austrian cores (a comeback) and GM broke his own rule for his own interests, simple as that, I argumentated in game and they refused to listen to me, the rest of the ppl playing there were to busy to care what was happening.
Again, I respect those who respect me as equal and others. if not I don't feel the necessity to do so until some attitudes are changed.
Sterkarm said:
Yes, I invaded Russia rather early in this game, but I did it out of seeing time and again the consequences of letting an opponent escape without harm when you can deal damage to him without doing the same to yourself. It's the simple fact that I did what I feel was necessary to ensure a strong Poland. So say what you want, but I've had enough of it, no matter how much I want to just reply and flame, I'm not going to respond to any inflammatory remarks from you anymore, Pibe.
the way you interpretated "Damage" here is: to cause huge inflation to others no matter if they are defeated, using private messages to make others get mad then using their feelings to tell others how unstable they are as players, lying to higher those feelings, causing their gov to fall?
have you ensured a strong Poland? having orthodox provs will help you to get a good tech? and many other factors.
What i'm looking for? I want Poland not to be edited, and I want you to change your mind before everybody here place you in their respective black lists.
