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daedalus said:
It is not possible to remove Spain's explorers from the save file before the country forms. That should be pretty clear. I guess because you are saying it is not your responsilibty to remove the explorers you are giving room to the though that having the head start in colonies is inappropriate.
However, as with the faulty leaders, I dont like to force on the players things that I would personally do and view as fair play.

I'm not averse to getting mine nuked as long as I get cash compensation (like 30d per TP level, 15d per attempt or so with average of 2 attempts for each), but I did want to point out that no rule has been violated here.
 

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Strix said:
Bosnia indeed has a claim to some of Hungary, and this claim is twofold.

We rightfully claim all the lands of our hereditary and bitter enemies the Croatians, along with Banat and Pest, lands of our Magyar brethern.

Well, Moldavia also has claims in all Banat, and Pest, and wishes Bosnia to recognize them in exchange for the recognition of Bosnia's claims in the almost all the greek peninsula, east mediterranean islands and most of the southern balkans. Just remember that Moldavia has also strong ties to greeks and slavonians, which are currently mostly under Bosnian ownership.

We recognize Pommerians claims on all polish provinces though,and have little interest on ruling over german peoples.
 

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There is no such rule. It is not my responsibility nor Escobar's to ensure that the AI maps and explorers are properly removed.

I thought that the removal of all explorers before 1500 was intended as preventing exploration before that date. I guess your saying that's not what that meant.

My bad, I guess I need to change my strategy and start stealing maps from Spain and others to get my colonial ambitions moving, so I am not left behind.

Just wish I had known from the start, would have made a huge differance in what I have been doing.

Moldavia, if I understand you correctly, your willing to give up your claim to Thrace in exchange for claim to Banat and Pest?
 

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I suggest we remove all exploration Spain has done, and Navarra/catalunya have got from sacking capitals. Colonization can be edited out and compensation can be given. Its not fair to the rest of us for Navarra/Catalunya to have a headstart on colonization.
 

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I would keep the old version for one more week to see if there are problems with new patch... better safe than sorty...:)
 

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Navarra/catalunya's exploration and colonization still needs to be edited out, and compensation given...

Edit: I guess I'll do it.
 
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Let's get a handle on what we are using, if anything for a patch.

29MAY or 04JUN or nothing. :) I haven't downloaded any beta as of yet.
 

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Edited save here.

Changes:
Colonization and exploration removed for Catalunya and Navarra.
+690D to Catalunyan treasury. (compensation for colonization removed)
+90D to Navarran treasury. (compensation for colonization removed)
Daed already removed Spanish explorers/exploration/colonies.

We can vote on which one to use in the lobby.
 

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We should use the new patch. I was completely unable to use lagmerchants earlier today with Spec hosting, and there was only one crash in about 2 hours of gameplay.
 

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well, if you guys already downloaded it then I will too. It is less effor to install new patch than remove it.
 

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Barca said:
We should use the new patch. I was completely unable to use lagmerchants earlier today with Spec hosting, and there was only one crash in about 2 hours of gameplay.

More like 3 hours there ;)