French Cyprus

[IggyMidomi]

Why?

When was this a thing??

 

[Wizzington]

1192-1489 is when it was a thing.

 

[Helkoi]

Well Cyprus at this time was a crusader state ruled by french nobility .

This was also the same family that ruled the former Kingdom of Jerusalem.

 

[ImperatorLJ]

Really? I thought that was an island of Ents.

 

[Lamahorse]

You can form France as Cyprus.

(Should be an achievement!)

 

[Panzerschiffe]

House of Lusignan ruled it. They were a fun family to play in CKII.

 

[IsadorBG]

When was this a thing??

Back then.

 

[Korashy]

So is primary culture ruling elite now, or population? Was the majority population french (I really don't know)?

 

[birincikalite]

So is primary culture ruling elite now, or population? Was the majority population french (I really don't know)?

The rulers.

 

[AndreasPhokas]

yup rulers were French which is why its French cultured but the province is greek.

 

[No idea]

yup rulers were French which is why its French cultured but the province is greek.

Then why London (and all England) wasnt cosmopolitaine in the EU III start date? (1389). Iirc, the first english monarch to talk english as his first language was Henry V. The previous ones had the langue doil (language spoken in the north of France that is considered precursor of modern french) as first language so you can consider they were more french than english.

 

[zamieo]

Then why London (and all England) wasnt cosmopolitaine in the EU III start date? (1389). Iirc, the first english monarch to talk english as his first language was Henry V. The previous ones had the langue doil (old french) as first language so you can consider they were more french than english.

Language =/= culture.

 

[moscal]

Walkthrough "Why does something in the game is strange"
- google
- wikipedia
- history books

If the above does not help - ask a question on the forum.

 

[No idea]

Language =/= culture.

Language is part of culture.

 

[moscal]

Language is part of culture.

Food and alcohol too...

 

[No idea]

Food and alcohol too...

So i take it the Lusignans ate canard and bourgogne wine in Cyprus? Otheriwse, they cant be cosmopolitaine.

 

[moscal]

Please... Sarcasm... You know what is this?

In another way - You can speak in English, but do not have English culture. You can speak russian, but do not have Russian culture. You can speak spanish, but do not be a Spaniard. You can speak in latin, but do not have a Roman culture. Etc. etc. etc.

 

[Ziaolin]

Then why London (and all England) wasnt cosmopolitaine in the EU III start date? (1389). Iirc, the first english monarch to talk english as his first language was Henry V. The previous ones had the langue doil (language spoken in the north of France that is considered precursor of modern french) as first language so you can consider they were more french than english.

Pretty sure t'was langue d'Oc. Might be wrong, but in the case of Richard I, I do remember Lionheart being quite versed in Occitan poetry, 'specially the patois of Limousin.
Now, can't really say for the others following him, but it wouldn't surprise me they were more Oil/Occitan cultured than English, as the Guyenne area was probably, with Normandy until they lost it, the richest region they had.

 

[Rubidium]

Then why London (and all England) wasnt cosmopolitaine in the EU III start date? (1389). Iirc, the first english monarch to talk english as his first language was Henry V. The previous ones had the langue doil (language spoken in the north of France that is considered precursor of modern french) as first language so you can consider they were more french than english.

In addition to what others have said, note that Cyprus the COUNTRY has a primary culture of Cosmopolitaine; Cyprus the PROVINCE has a primary culture of Greek (which you can confirm by clicking). That's why they frequently tend to be hit by rebels, and is clearly intentional.

By comparison, even if we were limiting ourselves to culture==language (which is clearly not the case), London would never have been any sort of French, as the vast majority of the inhabitants spoke English (in various dialects) from Anglo-Saxon times to the present day. You could make an argument that, in an EUIV game stretching back to 1066 (or even more recently), the primary culture of England the Country should be Norman (or perhaps Aquitaine later), but by the time of the Hundred Years War (by which point the English had lost most of their French holdings), the English monarchs were pretty clearly seen by both sides as not really being French.

 

[Florryworry]

You can form France as Cyprus.

(Should be an achievement!)

hah beat you to it