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I'm playing as France (with the Southern Revolutions mod) and I've noticed that my capitalists aren't building anything. I read that it can take 5 years before they start building, but it's already past 1850 and they've only built a couple railroads and, I think, two factories. The British, Russian and Prussians have plenty of railroads everywhere, but my country is practically without. I've checked the capitalists' cash reserves many times and they're always around 1000-1500. That should be enough under laissez faire and interventionism, but any building projects have been extremely rare. I've now changed to state capitalism to get at least some increase in my industry score. With other countries my capitalists have worked nicely, what is it with these guys?
 

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Are you playing Revolutions extension

Do you have the hotfixes for Revolutions (see my sig)

that reworks the French POPs so that France is more competitive in the early years in terms of building rail and factories.
 

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OHgamer said:
Are you playing Revolutions extension

Do you have the hotfixes for Revolutions (see my sig)

that reworks the French POPs so that France is more competitive in the early years in terms of building rail and factories.

Yes and yes. All factories were completely filled at the beginning, so that shouldn't have prevented anything. What makes the capitalists build railroads? Do they (or are they supposed to) do that, if the conditions for factory building aren't met?
 

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Oerdin said:
They have to be able to build up their cash reserves if you want them to invest in factories and railroads. That means low taxes and low tariffs.

and maximizing exports. set sell to whatever you need to be just above your use for factories and export the rest out.

Maximize exports and minimize the amount of money in taxes and tariffs you take out of a capitalist's pocket, and they will build the reserves that will eventually allow them to build factories and railways.

Note also that depending on global market levels of supply and demand and your internal POP demand for various goods, the game engine may very well decide it is better to have capis build factories instead of railways, perhaps even for an extended period of time. And unfortunately there is no way to direct that so that more railways are built instead of glass factory number 7.

and remember, state capitalism requires capis to have 4x the amount of reserves they need to build anything, and as L-F capis usually start building around 1250-2000 in reserves for the first factory, that would mean under SC they would not start building until 5000-8000 in reserves, and that does not include the additional cost added for each factory you have in your country, which inflates the price even further. So a country like France probably doesnt start building factories until 1500-2250 in reserves under LF govts, or 3000-4500 under interventionism, or 6000-9000 under state capitalism.
 

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OHgamer said:
and remember, state capitalism requires capis to have 4x the amount of reserves they need to build anything, and as L-F capis usually start building around 1250-2000 in reserves for the first factory, that would mean under SC they would not start building until 5000-8000 in reserves, and that does not include the additional cost added for each factory you have in your country, which inflates the price even further. So a country like France probably doesnt start building factories until 1500-2250 in reserves under LF govts, or 3000-4500 under interventionism, or 6000-9000 under state capitalism.

Oh. I thought it would be enough to just have the 500, 1000 or 2000 for them to build. My exports around 800, second only to the UK and rich taxes have been minimized for a long time. I've tried to take tariff's as low as possible too. I guess they just haven't had enough money, since I didn't know they need many times more money than they really require. Thanks for the info.