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Franz Ferdinand said:
Ok, after playing some smaller countries i decided to try france. The org of my troops is 19 though. Why is that?
Historical accuracy? ;) :p
If I remember right, the org of democratic nations is 50% until you're in a war.
 

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Franz Ferdinand said:
Ok, after playing some smaller countries i decided to try france. The org of my troops is 19 though. Why is that?

As said you'll suffer a 50% penalty when not at war. However the Germans always focus on Poland before going west so that is not your primary concern. Your primary concern is that even with that in mind you'll have a maximum of 38 and that is simply too low. The French have been busy building the Magninot line and have not developed military philosophy and doctrines.
 

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But with a good mix of tech research and an extension of the Maginot line (Chaumont - Sedan - Lille) it is not to hard to stop the Germans. What is harder is the counter attack ;)

I'm actually playing a game of France now and I've stopped Germany successfully. What helps is taking military control of Belgium to help boost your fortifications.

I've started my offensive in Germany's weakness: Italy :D

Italy is completely out of Africa (with help from the UK) and I'm slowly invading northern Italy. Germany will probably be at war with SU soon so I'll be able to finish Italy without much concern and try and take a few german provinces eventually once they are kicked by the Soviets.



Don't waste resources on upgrading your navy. You'll need everything on land to fight the germans - besides, what you have is enough to beat the italians in the Med with the help of the UK.
 

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france...

I believe it is historically accurate that France has a max org of 38. Many of their divisions didn´t know who was commanding them during the german invasion. Several high-ranking french commanders were living in chateaus far from their command posts with no radio to get in touch with it, the major part of the airforce weren´t taken into action at all during the war etc etc.
When playing as France:
1. DO stop the germans from taking Sedan and Lille, the Maginot Line is no problem holding.
2. Forget tanks, build infA (and of course focus your research on inf).
3. your allies will give you command over troops in France. This is especially nice when the americans join the war
4. Invade Italy.
 

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During war time than France org will increase. SImilarly for USA start with an extremely low org. It can't get worst than the settings to poland which even after modified got little man power to reinforce at first.
 

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Muckbulle said:
I2. Forget tanks, build infA (and of course focus your research on inf).

I always build tanks has France. Of course I wait until my front is secured in a stalemate. Tanks are necessary for a good counter offensive when Germnay starts backing under SU pressure.
 

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I would agree with that point, however you should delay researching them until after you've been able to stop the Wehrmacht on the German frontier. Unless you can hold the line first, there is no point planning a counter-attack.
 

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hmmm.... maybe i DID build tanks in my last France campaign... can´t remember really. I know I had good use of american mechs at least. a few mountaineers for the alps is always a good idea at least.