France game - why are Germans siting on hands?

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NightRider

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I thought playing as France would be pretty challenging given how quickly the AI-France has collapsed in all my other games. So far however, the Germans are just sitting on the border and the Italians just bashing into my alpine forts. Is this normal or am I doing something unusual? This is set at regular difficulty and I buffed Germany and Italy with the custom sliders to give them 12% bonus.
 

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Zwirbaum

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Why are you calling this a "complaint"? Shouldn't German try to bomb the forts or try to smash with their panzers? I don't see building level 4 forts as some sort of game breaking exploit.

Post the fort building screenshot.
 

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Yeah, German ai won't attack forts level 3+ I think, but Italy and the USSR will. IDK why, maybe paradox is trying to simulate how certain countries were IRL but they wouldn't just kepp bashing their head against a wall over and over again.
 

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Most likely it's written in (for now) to keep the German army from suiciding on the Maginot (which was a complaint early on). One of I'm sure a ton of artificial limitations that treat the symptoms of the underlying issue until they can get their head around it and figure out how to solve it at the base level.

Also remember that the AI doesn't use the Air Force effectively - something that perhaps with the attaching of air wings to general's fronts might fix.
 

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I've noticed that restarting my computer helps when the AI is doing stupid things.

It probably resets some initial parameters. Give that a shot.

Otherwise, just wait for Spain to join and attack you from the rear. Eventually Soviet Union should invade Germany.

Given enough time, the game typically devolves into all out war so you'll have your fun eventually :p
 

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I've noticed that restarting my computer helps when the AI is doing stupid things.

It probably resets some initial parameters. Give that a shot.

Otherwise, just wait for Spain to join and attack you from the rear. Eventually Soviet Union should invade Germany.

Given enough time, the game typically devolves into all out war so you'll have your fun eventually :p

Germany has capitated by mid '42 - attacked Italy through Sicily boot and with a few naval invasions they were easily defeated. This seemed way to easy. Just before Germany fell Spain DOWed. They have a ton of divisions - like over a 100, but all seem to be underpowered - why are they spamming so many divisions? At this point game is over and just seems like mop-up unless I want to take on SU.
 

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Germany has capitated by mid '42 - attacked Italy through Sicily boot and with a few naval invasions they were easily defeated. This seemed way to easy. Just before Germany fell Spain DOWed. They have a ton of divisions - like over a 100, but all seem to be underpowered - why are they spamming so many divisions? At this point game is over and just seems like mop-up unless I want to take on SU.

Yeah, pretty much any game where Germany is denied the French factories/resources/etc. Ends in a pretty dismal way for Germany. They still try to be offensive, but they don't have the industrial might to be able to do it (not to mention having to actually defend long borders to start with, rather than just watching a coastline.)
 

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Forts need to be nufed into the ground IMO. They should never be buildable past level 2 and only have the special ones (like Maginot Line) built at game start or by event.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mareth_Line

So then how do I build that? Or one of the many other fortresses that were built prewar? Belgium is missing all their forts, as are a few other countries.

Best to just nerf the fort bonus.
 

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Forts need to be nufed into the ground IMO. They should never be buildable past level 2 and only have the special ones (like Maginot Line) built at game start or by event.

There's already a mechanic for forts to be bombed and their effects reduced/eliminated. I also thought heavy tanks could bust through forts. I think the AI needs some reprogramming to deal with forts better.