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Originally posted by Asaris
And what would happen if the Ottomans conquered all of the HRE?
Then it exists only in the mind of the Emperor.:D
 

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wow, so the HRE does not even have to be catholic, he just has to be catholic at the time of election. I wonder what history would think about that one. Seems to me it is just another one of the easy things that could and should happen that the game desingers left out.

I once read a script about how sequals are usually looked down apon if they are released less than one year after the original games release, but eu2 was the exception. well, if they consider that true, i say its about damn time for eu3 (sorry about the language). No thank you , i dont want patch 1.06, no i dont want to download any EEP's or the AGC or the AoN. I just want a little effort put into a game that makes sense. I mean, how big of a miss is it that a protestant could stay HRE, surely it would of casued mage trouble during the times if he were to be HRE and then declare his nation catholic, it might of even cause the total dissolvement of the holy roman empire.

or like others said, when all catholics are annex it goes to protestants or native americans or just anyone at random. How dumb (once again sorry about the language) !! It seems like there should be some event placed in that if the state language of every province within the holy roman empire is other than catholic something happens, "Rome Defeated" or something like that should pop up giviing a -3 stability to all catholic nations, while a +3 to all protestants/reformists.

and nothing happens when the papal states is annexed, which is also very strange. If the province of Roma is controled by anyone other than the pope, all catholics should recieve a permanent CB against the owner.
 

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Originally posted by KrisKannon
wow, so the HRE does not even have to be catholic, he just has to be catholic at the time of election. I wonder what history would think about that one. Seems to me it is just another one of the easy things that could and should happen that the game desingers left out.
Legitimate- Paris is worth a Mass in reverse. And I doubt that there are few "easy things" in EUII that could be fixed, if any. A friend of mine once tried to program the AI's response to naval attrition, and despite being the most experienced programmer I know, he failed miserably.
 

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Originally posted by KrisKannon
wow, so the HRE does not even have to be catholic, he just has to be catholic at the time of election. I wonder what history would think about that one. Seems to me it is just another one of the easy things that could and should happen that the game desingers left out.

But how often does this ever happen.
 

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In my opinion the hole in the model is the exact oppposite. I don't think it is historically realistic to require that the HRE be Catholic. Frederick V came awfully close to getting elected, and if the Bohemian revolt had been successful (meaning that there would have been 4 protestant electors vs the 3 catholic archbishops) I think a protestant Holy Roman Emperor would have been a very likely outcome. The fact that the emperor was always Catholic was due to the fact that there three ecclesiastical electors who wouldn't vote for a protestant, and a protestant emperor would certainly have changed the relationship between the empire and the Imperial/German church, but it's not unrealistic.
 

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I think the most realistic would be for the electors to vote for their respective co-religionists until the edict of tolerance...
 

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Not what happened in real life though. Saxony tended to be a strong supporter of the Hapsburgs.