Four for the price of one

[Storey]

Mameluks

1532 107d in Treasury +3 Stability 10% Inflation

I am now giving myself the option of staying 5 or 10 years with each country.

Situation:
The Mameluks have been reduced to Cyrenaica, Cataract, Nile and Egypt. They are in a war with Oman against Nubia. They are in a military alliance with Oman and Persia. Persia? Well I'll be damn they finally have some power in their alliance. Unfortunately the Persians have shown themselves to be very unreliable. Even though they have 107d in the treasury they are making no effort to build troops for their war with Nubia.

Goal:
End war with Nubia with some kind of a victory. Then try to strengthen the Mameluks for the next round with Turkey.

January
3k Calvary and 3k Infantry ordered. All through this segment I'm building troops I'm just not going to itemize all of it.
Venice pays Wurtemberg 199d for peace.

February
Cataract Besieged by Nubia
Venice and Austria agree to a white peace.

May
Nile lost to Nubia.

June
Nile recaptured.

September
Mameluks defeat Nubia in Cataract.

January 1533 31d in Treasury

August
Nubia besieged by Mameluks.

December
Alexandria revolts against Poland-Lithuania 50k Infantry 15k Calvary
Bank loan taken. I have to end this war with Nubia and that is going to take some cash.

January 1534 90d in treasury

April
Nubia captured

May
Mameluks win the province of Nubia in peace agreement with Nubia. I think this is the first victory of any kind in the game for the Mameluks. Watch out world here comes the Mameluks.

December
Denmark give Skane to Sweden for peace. I didn't even know that they were at war.

January 1535 69d
Slider moved for treasury income of 3 per month. I have a loan to pay off.

April
Rebels take Alexandria. Anyone want to take a bet on where the rebels head to next?

May
Rebel army of 23k attack Egypt where a Mameluks army of 26k wait. Mameluks win.

January 1536 129d in Treasury

September
Rebels have broken the government in Denmark. What? My pride and joy Denmark has fallen on hard times. They were the ones I thought were going to succeed.

January 1537 146d in Treasury +3 Stability 15% Inflation -52 Victory Points.
The good news is that I expanded the Mameluks empire by one province. However they have a loan to pay off and how long until Turkey again declares war? I have decided to only stay 5 years with the Mameluks because Denmark is starting to fall apart and I don't think there's a whole lot more that I'm going to accomplish here at this time.

On to Denmark!

 

[Carolus Rex]

Only 10% inflation!!??

 

[Storey]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex
Only 10% inflation!!??

Well they started out with 10% and ended this 5 year segment with 15% so if the trend of 1% per year keeps going I think they might give your record a test. I haven't given up hope for them yet but things aren't looking to good.

 

[unmerged(2540)]

Originally posted by Storey


Mameluks are a major so can't be annexed but I may still switch to another country if it become clear that they can't survive against Turkey. Maybe I'll replace them with Oman. Although this aar is an experiment to see how the AI does with a little help from me I think that it's giving other players something to think about for trying out new things. I'm already thinking about taking four single province countries and trying to get them into an alliance. It might be interesting to work a rotation with them to see what they will do to help each other out during a war.

Hmm, what about 4 neighbours? That would be very interesting, say, Kleves, Cologne, and what are two others? maybe saxony and hessen?

 

[Storey]

Originally posted by Honour_Shogun



Hmm, what about 4 neighbours? That would be very interesting, say, Kleves, Cologne, and what are two others? maybe saxony and hessen?

Right something like that. You would only be controlling one country at a time and it could be interesting to fight a war and see what everyone does. Many different possibilities.

Joe

 

[Storey]

Denmark

1537 146d in Treasury +3 Stability 11% Inflation

Situation:
Skane has been lost to Sweden. Revenge may be awhile off but it will come. There has obviously been some internal upheaval since several provinces show the signs of smoldering cities.
Not at war with anyone. Military alliance with Russia. No leaders of note and only 10k Infantry on hand.

Goal:
Solidify the domestic situation and then some more expansion where I can.

March
Spain give Algiers Messina (sp) and 18d for peace. Alright! The AI finally did something right.
I'm sending out colonist as I get them and can afford it.

January 1538 125d in treasury
Slider set to max in infrastructure.

March
Kurland revolts.
Kurland is lost to rebels.

April
Rebels leave Kurland and besiege Eastern Prussia. I intend to use this to my advantage!

September
Kurland besieged by Denmark.

January 1539 117d in Treasury

August
Russia declares war against Golden Horde. Crimea joins Golden Horde. I join Russia but it's all lip service.

September
Random event. Naval equipment manufactory in Iceland.

January 1540 120d

February
Iceland expanded to city.

March
Kurland recaptured.

June
Austria declares war against Poland. Several allies join Austria while Turkey and Georgia join Poland but Persia dishonors alliance. When we left the Mameluks, Persia was part of their alliance. What happened I don't know but it's not good news for the Mameluks.

July
Denmark declares war against Prussia. With the rebels still besieging East Prussia the aren't able to raise troops except in Memel which I'm invading. I took a hit in stability so I've move all income into stability.

August
Memel besieged.

October
White peace between Russia and Golden Horde.

November
+1 Stability reached.

January 1541 137d in Treasury

February
Memel captured.

August
+2 stability reached.

October
East Prussia besieged.

December
Kurland revolts. A 1% revolt risk and they seem to be constantly revolting.

January 1542 101d in Treasury

April
+3 Stability reached.
Slider to infrastructure

June
Stole sea charts from Poland and half the world shows up.

January 1543 114d in Treasury

March
Captured East Prussia. Annexed Prussia. First major success by any of the four countries.

May
Broke Kurland revolt.

September
Infrastructure to level 3

January 1544 133d in Treasury
Chief judge in Jylland

October
Turkey does you know what with you know who with the usual countries joining the usual sides. Oh surprise, Persia dishonors it's alliance with Turkey.

January 1545 176d in Treasury

November
Narvik expanded to city.

January 1546 199d in Treasury

February
Fort ordered in Narvik

May
Kurland revolts.

August
Navy to level 6

January 1547 140d in Treasury +3 Stability 14% Inflation 164 Victory points

I've left troops being built in Memel to defeat the rebels in Kurland. I can only hope that the AI figures out that that's what they're for. Added two provinces and strengthen the economy so all in all not a bad 10 years. Lets hope the computer can keep it all together.

Next stop Venice

 

[Brad1]

Storey about that Mp AAR, it seems that we will have to wait unti Eu2 is released until we will have a chance to play, well actually it seems that in two wekks, if no one has anything else to do and we work out the details we should bs able to play.

 

[unmerged(3963)]

Storey - great job. I'm rooting for the Mameluks.

Honour_Shogun - that 'American Nations 4-in-1' sounds really cool, actually. Just don't add as many conquistadors and cash as you did in the new haudenosee one, please.

(Just personal preference)

 

[Storey]

Originally posted by BadKarma
Storey - great job. I'm rooting for the Mameluks.

Honour_Shogun - that 'American Nations 4-in-1' sounds really cool, actually. Just don't add as many conquistadors and cash as you did in the new haudenosee one, please.

(Just personal preference)

I haven't given up on the Mameluks but things are looking even worst for them but that's in the next update. Ameriacn Nations 4-in-1 does sound good.

 

[Storey]

Venice

1547 5d In Treasury +3 Stability 14% Inflation

Situation:
At war with Spain with Teutonic Order. Military alliance with Teutonic Order, Naples and The Knights. Mantua and Istria have been lost. Total military power is 37k Infantry, 10 transports and 41 Warships.

Goal:
End war with Spain but this time I plan to be more aggressive. Or in other words I'm tired of being kicked around and plan on doing a little kicking of my own.

March
Morocco becomes vassal of Algiers. Wow, the AI has done two things in a row to improve itself. Will wonders never cease.
Sicily besieged by Venice. It's the closest province that Spain owns and iIwant it!
I'm continually building troops through out this war.

July
Mameluks pay Poland 28d for peace.

November
Sicily captured.

January 1548 107d in Treasury
Teutonic Order declares war against Sweden. The Knights, Naples and Venice decline to join the war. Good luck Teutonic Order and don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.

April
Mameluks give Turkey 17d for peace. At least they didn't lose anymore territory.

June
Spain has been refusing peace offers from Venice. And Venice isn't going to settle for anything less than Sicily so a risk is going to have to be taken! Onward to Spain!
Valencia is besieged by Venice with 8k infantry and 20 cannon. As I'm doing this I can see around 45k Spanish troops to the north and 23k to the south. Lets see if the AI can react to what I'm doing.

August
Spain attacks in Valencia with 17k Infantry and 6k Calvary. Venice wins!

December
Valencia captured
Spain turns down peace offer of Sicily to Venice.

January 1549 80d in Treasury

February
Castile besieged. What the hell it's worth a try.

April
Valencia besieged by Spain

July
Valencia recaptured by Spain. Boys and girls we are now going to play "merry go round".

August
Lost battle in Castile retreat to Leon.

September
Leon besieged by Venice. Only has a minimum fort.

October
Estramaduras captured by Venice. No fort.

December
Another army 10k infantry 20 cannon landed and captured Murcia. No fort.

January 1550 105d in Treasury
Sierra Nevada besieged by Venice

February
Leon Captured by Venice.
Spain turns down peace offer of Sicily to Venice.
March
Lost Estramaduras to Spain

April
Aragon besieged by Venice. Minimum fort.

July
Leon recaptured by Spain

September
Murica recaptured by Spain

October
Sierra Nevada Captured by Venice.
All this time Spain has refused several peace offers with me getting Sicily.

January 1551 148d in treasury
Aragon captured by Venice.
Leon besieged by Venice.
Sierra Nevada recaptured by Spain

March
Leon captured by Venice.

May
Estramaduras captured by Venice.

June
Murcia captured
Spain still won't agree to peace.

July
Sierra Nevada besieged by Venice.

September
Estramaduras recaptured by Spain.

October
Leon recaptured by Spain.

November
Estramaduras recaptured by Spain.

December
Catalonia besieged by Venice.
Murcia recaptured by Spain. My head is spinning trying to keep up with all of this.

January 1552 91d
Sicily revolts. Bah! Now I have to recapture it to demand it in a peace treaty with Spain.

February
Sierra Nevada captured by Venice

March
Murcia captured by Venice
Catalonia Captured by Venice.
Valaencia besieged by Venice.
Sicily besieged by Venice.

April
Toledo besieged by Venice.
Sicily captured by Venice.

June
Estramaduras captured by Venice
Spain still won't give up Sicily.


August
Estramaduras recaptured by Spain
Finally Spain agrees to peace giving Sicily to Venice.

January 1553 113d in Treasury

August
Bailiff ordered in Corfu.
Turkey once again declares war against the Mameluks and everyone knows the routine and does their part. Gee, I wonder what Persia did?

January 1554 130d in treasury
Bailiff in Sicily.

December
Spain took Tampico form us.

January 1555 117d in Treasury
Trading post in Parana established.

August
Naples asks us to join alliance. We agree.

January 1556 159d in treasury
Chief Judge in Sicily.

January 1557 80d in Treasury +3 Stability 20% Inflation 178 Victory Points.

A roller coaster of a ride with Spain. Spain had the armies to crush me and couldn't find the brains to do it. I didn't want to have a province in Spain because it would mean more trouble down the line with Spain and right now I think I have enough to worry about. Anyway fairly successful decade with economic growth and a province added. It's going to be awhile before I get back so let's hope that they can keep their noses clean.

 

[Storey]

Algiers

1557 247d in Treasury +3 Stability 14% Inflation

Situation:
Messina has been added since we were last here. Morocco is a vassal and in a military alliance with Algiers. The military consists of 11k Infantry, 8k Calvary and 32 cannons all in Messina which is where I left them years ago if I remember right. There are 2 warships, 9 galleys and 5 transports. So I have the ability to move around which I'm going to need.

Goal:
Expansion is my middle name. One way or the other I'm looking for modest expansion but at who's expense?

January 1557 247d in treasury
Mameluks give Cataract and 18d to Turkey for peace. The incredible shrinking country continues it's act.

September
Denmark declares war against Spain. Why? I hope there's some reason to this madness. Scotland joins Denmark while Austria, Bavaria, Milan and Wurtemberg join Spain.

January 1558 161d in Treasury

June
The time has come for Algiers to start making a name for itself. War declared against Spain. Yes that old whipping boy Spain who is still fighting two wars now has a third one on it's hands. Morocco joins Algiers. No one joins Spain. -2 stability hit for DOW. Slider to max on stability. + 1d for Treasury.

August
Sierra Nevada besieged by Algiers.
No standing armies can be seen in Spain but they start building in three provinces.

January 1559 85d in Treasury

February
Sierra Nevada captured by Algiers.

April
Murcia captured. Still no fort in province.

May
Estramadura besieged by Algiers. Seems the Spanish have built a fort since we last visited them.

June
Lost Murcia.

August
Captured Murcia
Lost Murcia. Sound familiar?

November
Sierra Nevada besieged by Spain

January 1560 68d in Treasury
Malta besieged. Yes that tiny pinprick of an island is my real goal.

May
Estramadura captured by Algiers.
Sierra Nevada captured by Spain.
+2 stability reached

June
Leon besieged

September
Infrastructure level 3 reached.

January 1561 93d in Treasury

February
Estramadura captured by Spain

May
Leon captured by Algiers
Malta captured by Algiers

June
Aragon besieged
Spain gives Algiers Malta for Peace.

January 1562 69d in Treasury +2 Stability 15% Inflation 227 Victory Points
The key to this segment was that Algiers still had a navy! I chose Malta because it is the closest province that Spain had to Algiers. I checked out Sardinia but found that they were garrisoned by 16k troops. I'm only staying with Algiers for five years since they seem to be doing fine on their own. With Malta added and Infrastructure level 3 reached it will be interesting to see if they expand economically while I'm gone.

Sigh. On to the Mameluks or what's left of them.

 

[Pan Zagloba]

Good luck with the Mameluks (you'll need it) and keep us posted.

Zagloba

 

[Storey]

Originally posted by Pan Zagloba
Good luck with the Mameluks (you'll need it) and keep us posted.

Zagloba

It probably is going to take a certain amount of luck for them to survive. I think this is the make it or break it segment for the Mameluks. I'll let you know on Thursday.

Joe

 

[Storey]

Mameluks

1562 93d in Treasury +3 Stability 14% Inflation

Situation:
The Mameluks have been reduced to 4 provinces. Cyrenaica, Egypt, Nile and Nubia. Nubia is in revolt and is besieged by the Mameluks with 8k Infantry. They have a military alliance with Oman, Nubia, Netherlands and Persia.

Goal:
I'm past the point of just trying to survive. The Mameluks are going to have to expand if they are to have any future. Because I can see problems with Poland-lithuania controlling Alexandria and the need to reach their homeland incase we go to war I am going to start building a fleet. I hope that I don't have to use it but I can't ignore the fact that if I take Alexandria it will just be a dead end without a fleet to take the fight to the Polish homeland. If I manage to catch Turkey when it's time to renew it's alliance then I can just ignore Poland but I still might need a fleet to attack the Capital of Turkey if things get desperate of maybe I should say WHEN things get desperate. When the war to end all wars comes with Turkey I can only hope that Persia joins me otherwise I don't think I stand a chance. The military alliance between Poland, Georgia, Ethiopia and Turkey ends in 1567 so I'm building my forces with that as the time table for war. If opportunity presents itself in some other way I won't hesitate to take it.

January 1562
Military to 50%
Slider to Max income. Inflation is the least of my problems.

May
10 Cannon ordered.
Algiers Annexed Morocco. Way to go Algiers!

July
Transport ordered
I'll list the troop and ship orders to let you see where I'm putting the emphasis.

November
trade Level 3 reached.
Traders sent out as I get them.

December
Netherlands DOW France. I refuse to join since I can't afford a war at this time. Luckily Persia asks us back into the alliance the same month. That had me sweating because without Persia I haven't got a chance.
Down to +2 Stability.

January 1563 66d in Treasury

May
10 Cannon ordered.

September
Transport ordered.

January 1564 79d in Treasury
10 Cannon ordered

March
Transport ordered.

May
Nubia recaptured from rebels.

November
10 cannon ordered.

December
+3 Stability reached.

January 1565 48d in Treasury
transport ordered.

August
10 cannon ordered.

November
Transport ordered.

January 1566 32d in Treasury

February
1k Calvary ordered.

May
10 cannon ordered.

October
5k Infantry ordered. Military maintenance moved to 100%. Time to get ready to rock.

January 1567 77d in Treasury
Mameluks DOW Turkey who is without allies. Oman, Netherlands and Persia join. Nubia dishonors alliance but so what. I don't care as long as Persia fights with me.
Mameluks capture Sinai
Mameluks capture Quattara
10 cannon ordered.

February
Cataract besieged by Mameluks.

March
Delta besieged by Mameluks

June
4 Infantry ordered.

August
Poland-lithuania DOW's Denmark. Turkey and Crimea join Poland-lithuania. Scotland joins Denmark.

September
Cataract captured

November
Delta captured
1k Calvary ordered.

January 1568 73d in Treasury
Persia takes Syria in peace agreement with Turkey. Now this was the turning point in the war but not for the reason you might be thinking. With Persia out of the war my main provider of cannon fodder was gone. They had tied up all of the Turkish forces up to that time so you might think that I was doomed by this peace agreement. However by taking Syria, Persia had separated three of Turkey's provinces from the rest of Turkey. Only Judea, Jordan and Samaria were bordering on the Mameluks. So only troops raised in these three provinces can get to me so I think I can see a light at the end of the tunnel.

February
Samaria besieged
10 cannon, 1k Infantry ordered

April
3k Infantry ordered.

June Samaria captured.

September
Turkey captured Sinai
Judea captured

October
Mameluks get Delta and Cataract from Turkey in peace agreement.

January 50d in Treasury

July Denmark gives Eastern Prussia and 4d to Poland for peace

January 77d in Treasury
Spain with Sweden, Bavaria, Baden, Milan and a few others declare war against Denmark. Scotland joins Denmark. Mighty Denmark is in for a rough time it would seem.

February
Bailiff in Cyrenaica

January 1571 93d in Treasury
Bailiff in Nile.
Infrastructure level 3 reached.

January 1572 59d in Treasury +3 Stability 21% Inflation -2 Victory Points.
I just want you to know that this was the luckiest segment in the game so far. At several points a little change here or there and the Mameluks would have gone down the tubes. As it is they live to fight another day and are even in a position to be able to defend themselves against the dreaded Turk.

Next Stop Denmark

 

[Alexander Seil]

In my IGC game as Austria, Very Hard/Normal, Mameluks are still around and in pretty good shape in 1630.

 

[Storey]

Originally posted by Alexander Seil
In my IGC game as Austria, Very Hard/Normal, Mameluks are still around and in pretty good shape in 1630.

I've had games where they also do quite well. I think the key is if Turkey forms an alliance with the countries around the Mameluks especially Persia. If it does then the Mamelukes butt is grass and the Turks are a lawn mower.

joe

 

[nalivayko]

Storey, great aar! Allows you to change history in several places at once... or almost at once. Do you have the screens ready?

 

[Alexander Seil]

Do Turks own any of former Hungarian provinces, or other European provinces to north of Serbia? This can give them some major cash bonus, i never played for Ottomans, but i think all of their provinces except for hrace are crappy. Since in my game i diplo-annexed all of Hungary, this might be explanation.

 

[Storey]

Originally posted by nalivayko
Storey, great aar! Allows you to change history in several places at once... or almost at once. Do you have the screens ready?

Sorry no screens. I play on my computer at home and don't have access to the internet from there. I'm finding that instead of changing history in several places what I'm really doing is pulling my hair out watching my carefully laid plans fall apart before I can get back to each country to save them. I find it amusing that Algiers seems at this time to be doing the best. Go figure!

Joe

 

[The Danish King]

Great AAR! Please contunie.