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[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by Maximilian I
too late for new votes


- should we stick to the air strategy?

- should we go on the offensive and improve our resource supply? e.g. taking out albania (some oil), yugosalvia etc... but beware, it will raise allied WE.

Those two

Take at least albania, no where else unless they have resourses you need.

Keep the focus on naval air but get some land tech too so you can take the canal and malta (maybe Gib too) when WWII kicks off.

 

[Darkrenown]

And why not use some diplomacy to get some more minors into the axis, it won't affect your war effort in anything but a good way, will it?

 

[Darkrenown]

If the Duce thinks Germany will get what it wants from the Czechs without sparking a major war we should take Yugoslavia to increase our resourse and industry base. With this boost to our ecomony we may be able to afford some submarine research. Decent subs would help us to control the med.

We should focus our research on:

1. Airforce
2. Infantry
3. Tanks and tank destroyers
4. Subs and transports.

A facsist goverment in romainia would be nice, but if they are already leaning towards the axis we should not endanger that relationship.

 

[Darkrenown]

Il Duce, I still think we should focus our research on:

1. Airforce
2. Infantry
3. Tanks and tank destroyers
4. Subs and transports.

Our land and air force is quite a good size just now so the majority of our industry should be devoted to research for the time being.

Yugoslavia should be invaded as soon as possible, we want them out of the picture before we take on the allies.

When war breaks out we should assist our allies. If France is not defending its border with us too strongly our army, led by the alpini should beable to push through after our modernised airforce softens them up a bit.

If the border is heavily defended they may draw some of their forces away to counter the German's attack, we should wait untill that moment to attack.

The outbreak should also see our naval bombers sweep the med clear of allied shipping.

Depending on the situation in France we may have enough forces to assult malta at the same time, if not it can wait for France to be delt with.

With France and Malta taken care of our forces can focus on forcing the British out of north africa and taking control of the canal.

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[Darkrenown]

Sir, I must disagree with Barone di Curow, if we take the French colonies on the west coast they are open to attack from the Brittish and, if they join the allies, Americans. We should stay within the med. When we crush France hopefully Germany will set up a puppet Government that we can use as a neutral buffer.

 

[Darkrenown]

While the Americans have a puny army and airforce they have a large navy and could help transport Brittish troops to land in western africa from the atlantic. We could take some of the french colonies, such as Libya, as long as we don't end up with an atlantic border.

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[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by von Curow
I spoke of the French colonies in Tunisia and Algeria--and Syria if it lies within our reach. You may also perceive that Libya is already firmly within our grasp.

As I have said, we should take what we can from the Frence as as long as we don't border the atlantic. As for us already controling Libya, I can only say 'oops'. I still think the rest of my strategy is valid.

 

[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by Rothschild
Duce, don’t attack Yugoslavia!! An agresive action in the Balkans would bring a new Great War in Europe. The Allies would try to punish us for sure. War is in the horizon. It seems inevitable. But Italy, the most civilized nation in the world, doesn’t deserve to be remembered in the history books as the country that originated a global conflict.

If the Duce feels action in Yugoslavia would spark a major war my plan could be changed so that Yugoslavia is attacked after France and Malta are taken. Or so that we merely defend out border with France and attack Yugoslavia and Malta right away. This might be the best option as an attack on mainland France could cost as a lot of men. Yes, I'll modify my plan:

 

[Darkrenown]

Updated plan:

Il Duce, I have modified my plan based on your other advisors opinions.

I still think we should focus our research on:

1. Airforce
2. Infantry
3. Tanks and tank destroyers
4. Subs and transports.

Our land and air force is quite a good size just now so the majority of our industry should be devoted to research for the time being. We can switch to making new units in 8 to 12 months.

Yugoslavia should be invaded as soon as possible, but only if we can do it without bringing the western allies into the conflict.

When war breaks out we should assist our allies. If France is not defending its border with us too strongly our army, led by the alpini should beable to push through after our modernised airforce softens them up a bit.

If the border is heavily defended we should defend our border but build up our forces in north africa. We should defend against the Brittish while taking much of the Frence colonies there but never bordering the atlantic.

The outbreak should also see our naval bombers sweep the med clear of allied shipping.

Depending on the situation in France we may have enough forces to assault malta at the same time, if not it can wait for France to be dealt with.

With France and Malta taken care of we can destroy Yudoslavia if we were unble to do so before the larger war broke out. Afterwards our forces can focus on forcing the British out of north africa and taking control of the canal.

 

[Darkrenown]

I concur with Barone di Curow, our naval bombers must bleed the Brittish fleet white while our army assaults Malta, after our bomber soften it up, and pushs towards Alexandria and the suez canal. If the chance presents itsself our border defence can become an attack into France.

If things go badly for Germany, which I doubt but anything is possible in war, our airforce can be used to blunt any major counter attacks on them.

When France falls our forces in Italy can crush Yugoslavia before being transfered to africa.

Depending on how well our forces shape up against the Brittish we might consider diverting some of our military research budget to industrial research. Advanced units will do us no good if we cannot produce and supply large numbers of them.

Field Marshal Badoglio, Chief of Staff.

 

[Darkrenown]

Our submarine victories are encouraging, I recommend expanding research and production in that department.
Our failed assault on Malta is a disappointment, but if the British are determined to defend it we may be able to use that to our advantage. When we launch our second invasion attempt the British will send their fleet to stop us again, when that happens our entire navy and all the aircraft not defending the French border must be sent against them. We will take Malta and destroy their Med fleet in one crushing blow.
When we control Malta our campaign in Africa will be much easier for us and much harder for the British.

My Duce, more intelligence reports would greatly aid my planning. How does Germany fair against France and Poland? Has our airforce engaged the fighters of another major power? If so, how did it compare? And finally, how fortified of our border with France, is there a danger of invasion?

Field Marshal Badogli

 

[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by Kiith
nor do I. We must attack and be on the offensive, If we are to do so Il Duce it must be in North Africa.

I agree, and taking Malta while destroying the British fleet will be a great step towards this goal.

 

[Darkrenown]

Well gentlemen, it seems the British can muster a larger defence fleet for Malta than I had planned for. However, having seen our airforce in action first hand I must say I am greatly impressed. I am equally impressed with the reports I have read on our submarine fleet. The surface fleet also performed well, especially given how its lack of modernisation.

Given our air superiority I think its time to shift resources away from pure air research and into submarine and electronics. Our planes and surface fleet shall not go unnoticed though, electronics research will allow us to improve them as well.

I see we are now following one of my earlier plans, an invasion of mainland France. This should bring as a great victory as the bulk of the French forces are engaging the Germans. Destroying France will free up a lot of forces for Africa and Malta. Make no mistake, gentlemen, Italy will win this war!

 

[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by Maximilian I
finally some electronics

OOC: I recommended electronics a page or so back

My Duce, if you have not finalised the research budget yet I would recommend focusing on electronics and land doctrines.

Field Marshal Badoglio.
Chief of Staff.

 

[Darkrenown]

An excellent plan, General Cesare! I fully agree with it, when we have dealt with the allies we can start new wars. Until then we should focus on our current enemies to crush them as soon as possible. My army is ready to march with you as soon as the Duce orders it.


Field Marshal Badoglio.
Chief of Staff.

 

[Darkrenown]

Duce, let us continue to reinforce Africa and push towards the Suez. General Cesare can deal with the French to the west.

I agree with Commodore Sturmgeist that we must take Gibraltar but it has to wait until we deal with the British and build more transport ships, I doubt 3 divisions is enough to take the British fort.

In the mean time we should bomb Gibraltar and any British shipping we come across, save our eastern forces from the British and press east to take the Suez.

Field Marshal Badoglio,
Chief of Staff.

 

[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by crusin
Marshal Badoglio,
You say we need more transports. Fine, but what good is this when they will be sunk by the unrepentant British fleet? Why is an offensive on Spain so taboo? With Spain, we need not worry about transports...

Major General Rusini

If we wish to launch a major attack from the sea we need more transports. They will also be useful for quickly deploying our troops to different points around the Med.

The problem with invading Spain is that they would scream for allied help, and the British home army is only a short sea journey away. It would also put out troops within range for the USA's strategic bombers, I'm sure our friend Herr Timme can tell us how enjoyable that is.

Still, if the Duce feels it is in our best interests to attack Spain I think it would be best to strike quickly and install a puppet government but leave them neutral, that way we remove a potential enemy yet don't open another front with the allies. Gibraltar can we taken either before we make peace or after if we can get permission from they new fascist government. I'm sure they'd be quite willing to let us.

Field Marshal Badoglio,
Chief of staff.

 

[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by Sturmgeist

What is this talk of needing transport ships to move our divisions to take Gibraltar...I am just a simple naval officer...but surely if I can see the land route to take Gibraltar and end the enemies romp in our backyard...anyone can?!

You can talk and talk all you want...but mark my words...If we do not take Gibraltar first...we are doomed. We may have some success in other theaters...but we will lose if we don't win the Med.

Commodore Sturmgeist, I understand we must seal the med, but our troops are already near to closing the Suez to the Allies, not to mention taking a major fleet base from the British, we cannot stop now! When Egypt is firmly in our hands we can switch to the defensive and focus on capturing Gibraltar, whether by land or sea.

In fact, while we fight for Egypt perhaps the Duce could order the diplomatic corps to focus in influencing the Spanish government, perhaps even backing a coup there! However, getting permission to move our troops through their lands would be enough to serve our purpose.


Field Marshal Badoglio,
Chief of staff.

 

[Darkrenown]

Duce, if we can finish off the Greeks quickly then we should postpone my attack to launch an amphibious assault on them. Greek industry and resources will aid our war effort and free up yet more troops for an overwhelming attack on Alexandria. As much as I hate to see mu long awaited assault there delayed further I can't stand to let the Greeks get away with attacking us and our allies like this.

Field Marshal Badoglio,
Chief of staff.

 

[Darkrenown]

*Field Marshal Badoglio walks in, he glares briefly at General Moizo before addressing the counsel*

Duce, gentlemen, I shall be brief as I have several pressing matters to attend to back at my army. I do not believe we have enough men to strike at Romania and the middle east at the same time so we should focus on the ME and then attack the soft underbelly of the USSR. However, we may need to delay this attack to defeat the British who are once again moving against us in Africa. Garrisoning our newly acquired lands is spreading our army thin, we should step up our training programs and equip them with extra AT equipment to counter the soviets tanks. Gibraltar should continue to be bombed until enough new divisions have been raised to assault it from the sea, then they can be transferred east.

Field Marshal Badoglio,
Chief of staff.