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I put my game away. i now wait for HOI3 and play IN. Also East India Company looks promising, so that should be next.
As far as this period, I hope they do come out with a Dark Ages game. It would have the Vikings. the fall of the Roman Empires, and the Arab invasion of Europe, plenty of material to make a game out of it.
As far as this period, I hope they do come out with a Dark Ages game. It would have the Vikings. the fall of the Roman Empires, and the Arab invasion of Europe, plenty of material to make a game out of it.
Lol, I had no idea it had with those things to do :rofl: But, I am very bad at graphical stuff, unless I spend hours and hours on it, but it will still end up below average.
Rome is a bad game (I actually think of it as a demo of a game) and sadly, Paradox seems to have stopped development. I regret I used actual, real-life money to obtain this piece of software.
You bought the collectors edition I see.. My condolences.
My experience has been quite different. I bought the core game second hand for 6 bucks, only buying VV for full price so it was a fair deal IMO. Add to that the fact that I grew up playing games like Conquest of The Empire and it was hard for me to be disappointed.
Good idea! It's a lot more subtle to call my gimp horse friend Mr Ed.
A lot of players (including myself) would disagree with you on this. EU3 and CK are great games. With NA/IN it is up there with HOI2 and Vicky imo. Paradox has managed to evolve their brand of games without losing that old EU2 feel. And it does seem like HOI3 will continue that trend.
Still doesnt make Rome less boring though, even with VV which has some very nice and more Paradox-like features. It just still feels ... small and does have that "all-encompassing"-feel that a Paradox game should. I am not sure whether a larger map and more nations in a VV mod would solve this. I would sure try it out though.
I also have to disagree with Erthul here - but i dont agree with you either.
I think Paradox should stick more with their great sucesses instead of trying new stuff - seriously, games like EU3 with a crappy graphic system, etc, only beated EU2 in a few aspects - like national decisions, governments, advisors, etc. People loved the historical aspect of EU2 - but Paradox decided to make EU3 totaly random based. EU3, IMO, lost the entire "EU2" feel that made the game so great.
Worst then that, was that there was quite a lot of bitching but Paradox did nothing except implement "Historical leaders/Monarchs" option for NA. Where is the historical AI? Where are the historical events? Where is the EU2 feel?
Gone.
I actually agree with Paradox's general direction with EU3 having played both EU2 and EU3 extensively. EU2 certainly has far more historical flavor-- this cannot be debated, but it lacks context. And you always knew how things were going to play out. Oh, it's 1540, let me prepare to inherit Hungary as Austria. Etc, etc.
Some of the criticisms about especially the original EU3 being bland are quite well placed though in my opinion. The engine itself is sound, but events were not customized for each nation, and to compound this, the number of events were probably kept to a minimum to reach the largest audience. But this decision hurts the overall flavor.
With the advent of EU3:IN, however, there is no question in my mind which is the superior game, although apparently you disagree. Some of the mods, e.g. Magna Mundi have further strived to mod the game to follow [relatively] historical paths. I also do not know the numbers but I am relatively sure that EU3 outsold EU2 by a fairly large margin, so outside of the eyes of a certain segment of gamers outraged by a 'soulless' game, it should be considered a success.
And with all of that said, I think EU3: Rome is the worst of the Paradox games that I've played. I have a vanilla install of Rome & VV, and the game is highly unstable on a machine which runs EU3 just fine. To me this is the most unforgivable aspect of a game.
But even more than that, it seems like it got the shaft in terms of design and while there are a few interesting gameplay elements, it seems like many more either poorly designed or just to annoy the player. Such as the absurd number of civil wars. Or the fact that when a governor secedes you have to declare war manually. Or a lack of a mechanism to handle provinces that break away from him during the civil war. Or the trade micromanagement hell, which in my opinion adds less strategy than tedium to the game. It's small things like this which combine together and give me the distinct impression that the game lacks the polish of most other Paradox titles.
I don't feel cheated though, I got easily a few hours of play out of it before losing interest and at least the money goes to Paradox so they can work on what-looks-to-be-amazing HoI3 and the ubiquitous EU4 and Victoria 2 and CK 2!
Did you even read what he wrote? He was by no mean agreeing with you, you know.Thank you.
Which one is that?
Between EU2 and EU3 there is definitely a stylistic difference. Whether you like that or not is very much a matter of taste. But either case EUR is at best a deformed bastard child of this evolution. It's anything but historically accurate, yet the conditions are too rigid allow for much wild development, it's too abstracted to have any depth, yet the abstraction doesn't make for a streamlined game. This is just the fundamentally inadaquate design, and not even considering all the lackluster and incoherent details that come together to make an even worse game.
Okay the game isn't unplayable. And with VV there are some fun moments to be had. But it is certainly not a PI quality game, and certainly not a positive development.
For the most part, I agree with Zeitgeist: Trade system is really annoying, AI republics can't handle populists and AI monarchies can't avoid civil wars for more than 5 years. I have resorted to a more "roleplay" theme when I play. I usually reload the game as the AI just to sort things out, and then the AI can fix my traderoutes (not necesarily the way I want them, but atleast trade is done). The game shouldn't have to work in this way, but it is my only way to actually get it working. It is far from boring though.
For the amount of posts I see you make on these forums, I'm surprised you have not registered Rome or VV. As I see it, I don't think you should be complaining, in every post, about a torrent version of a game.
There is just something so aggravating about people that do not register their games here. At least since it all started.
Chill out.
It's optional, you don't have to do it.
People shouldn't have to register in order not to be considered a pirate. Do you not remember the days prior, when no one did? Remember those little cards you got in DVD cases that you could fill in by hand and send off to Activision or whatever? How many of those did you fill in and send back, out of interest?
I just think it's ridiculous that it is assumed everyone who hasn't registered a post-EU3 Paradox game has acquired it illegally.
This is the only games company I've ever registered games for, and that's only because you have to in order to post in certain parts of the forum, and I still think it's pointless; but by far the most negative aspect of it is the fact that if you don't bother to, or if you lost the little card or whatever, people like yourself (and there's a lot of you on here) think you're some sort of robbing bastard out to see Stockholm burnt to the ground, with your 'I LOVE PIRATE BAY' t-shirt, Anarchist Cookbook and can of graffiti.
But hey, what do I know.
Ah some nostalgia there. Yeah I never register either. I get the impetus for all the security measures, but sometimes game publishers seem to be overly focused on them.
Personally I only come onto these forums to have a giggle over the constant arguments.
I have given up on rome ATM cos it just isn't quite good enough and IMO CKCDV is way better, Incidentally the CK forums are much more civilised as well.
Feel free to flame me because I feel no need to complain that I bought a product that wasn't awesome, or bollock me for not registering every single game I have bought but can I just say its that attitude that has killed the forums and its probably that kind of attitude that drives people to piracy. If you are accused of being a criminal anyway why not just go ahead and be one?
I have given up on rome ATM cos it just isn't quite good enough and IMO CKCDV is way better, Incidentally the CK forums are much more civilised as well.
Feel free to flame me because I feel no need to complain that I bought a product that wasn't awesome, or bollock me for not registering every single game I have bought but can I just say its that attitude that has killed the forums and its probably that kind of attitude that drives people to piracy. If you are accused of being a criminal anyway why not just go ahead and be one?
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