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You didn't lose a lot of troops, so I guess your troops fled soon as the wicked peasants attacked them. Probably because they were already on the run.

Well, the peasants lost half their army? xD And the Army strenghts:
32.000 vs 5.000? 300 vs 2.500 dead LOOOL :D
 

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Rome is fun and interesting to play. :p

Agree, Rome is a good game, and remember that EU3 took 2 expansions to reach the greatness it has now. I remember trying (yes trying) to play vanilla EU3, wich was impossible because 1 day took 3 seconds with highest speed, despite that I was well above the game's requirements.
The only thing this game lacks is more character depth (I still want to control my characers' marriages and have a better way to choose my heir) so I can relate to and build up my characters just like in CK, wich currently is a ton more interesting in that aspect. When it comes to the country management itself I would like to see more different governments (dual-monarchies, dual consuls etc) but I think we can mod that pretty well, so that is not a biggie.
 

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If this comes to reality, it will surely boost the forum:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/mmrproject/index.php?

Sadly it's not having much steam right now. :( But we'll get there.

When that mod is done, Rome will be a wholly another game. Right now it's little better than EUIII was at vanilla stage (or NA stage, that stunk too)

Rome's problem has been lack of mods. It's not like EUIII is a masterpiece without Magna Mundi. Even with IN it's not that much to write home about.
 

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Rome's problem has been lack of mods.

I really find these kind of commentaries a bit funny. Any game - including Rome, should be decent at the very least when they are released. If they arent, you cant expect mods to fix that problem. Also, no enterprise should put the job of making the game decent upon users' work (aka slave work).

As for funny images... I will post a few that i have in this pc...

The Populist Revolution





Someone is suffering from Schizophrenia





Some men are so... Gay

 

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Funny pictures? I'll go with one too:

rome_1.jpg


And no, I haven't edited the portraits, or a female got a male portrait through a bug: One is a governor and the other is a general iirc, so no cheating here :)
 
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HAHAHA!
And the best part is the ambition "have a son"! :rofl:
 

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I see you also own Diplomacy. Interesting comment in that light... :rolleyes:
Diplomacy is a quite good game, but it is exclusively a multi-player game. Single player is not something you wanna play. Which is hardly surprising since it is computer game adaptation of a board game, and it is quite true to the board game. I bought diplomacy so I could play the board game on-line, I got exactly what I wanted and I was really happy.

I personally never experienced Diplomacy as a failure.
 

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Yet another funny statement. Do you realize Europe Universalis was a board game too? And, that it was not a failure when it was digitalized?
 

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Wasn't Civilization a board game before Sid Meier produced the PC game?

I quite like EU:Rome, but given it was 4 or so years after Rome:Total War it didn't have a knock out effect. If you liked Europa Universalis type games you were probably more interested in history than battles so EU:Rome seemed lightweight - barely a mod; and if you liked Total War you would be disappointed by EU:Rome's combat.

On the other hand it has re-kindled my interest in Roman stuff such that I went out for a walk today in the country to look at the remains of a Roman villa in Spoonley Wood near Winchecombe in Gloucestershire.

However, short term I want Descartes to do Imperium 1.1.
 

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I just want to revive the forum. I'm trying to think of ways to do so. I personally believe EUR and VV to be great! The death of this forum would have terrible consequences. I have to say, I blame the lack of a large mod program for the harsh criticism that EUR and VV receives. But, if you think about it, the only reason people criticize it so heavily is because they have too much time on their hands or a bad attitude. LOL. In reality, EUR, especially combined with a patched VV is a great game. Probably one of the best I've ever played.
 

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But, if you think about it, the only reason people criticize it so heavily is because they have too much time on their hands or a bad attitude. LOL. In reality, EUR, especially combined with a patched VV is a great game. Probably one of the best I've ever played.

People criticise it because it is generally a bad game, there are fun moments I grant you, but I'm not drawn to play it as I am with say HOI2, EU3 etc
 

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Well, quite honestly, EURVV is the only game I've ever played for PC since I was ten. So, all comparisons aside, it is generally a good game, with fun moments included, and I'm not even a huge gamer but I'm still drawn to play it! ;)
 

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Well, quite honestly, EURVV is the only game I've ever played for PC since I was ten. So, all comparisons aside, it is generally a good game, with fun moments included, and I'm not even a huge gamer but I'm still drawn to play it! ;)

I'm glad you enjoy it, but if you happen to play more games than one it's hard not to compare it to others and wonder what might have been.The concept of the game is unique (far as I know) and attractive to some gamers, but the level of quality and execution is less than desirable. I think in part this is the source of all the critiques and frustration.
 

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Well, quite honestly, EURVV is the only game I've ever played for PC since I was ten. So, all comparisons aside, it is generally a good game, with fun moments included, and I'm not even a huge gamer but I'm still drawn to play it! ;)
A very important thing to note when taking into account the criticism is that almost all the criticism comes from gamers who know paradox well and own several of their other games. I recall saying very early after this game was released that it was not a bad game per se but that it was a bad paradox game, and this is the context it should be seen in. Most of the people who write here and say they really liked the game, haven't played another paradox game before and so judge the game on its own merits. A poster above complained about Rome only giving him 5 games of entertainment, I don't know how long these games took. But a rough estimate of 7-10 hours would have given 35-50 hours of fun. Which is far more than most games out there, espacially at the Rome price range. But compared to other paradox games, this is nothing. For instance, I have a single game in HoI 2 ( a game over WW2) that I've played for more than 50 hours and spent many hours outside the game contemplating strategy, yet I've only managed to play 6 months and theres likely at least another 6 months left. This is from an AAR I write, so I did play a bit more slowly than usual. But it is less extreme than you may think, and the reason I bring it up because it is the game I can most easily measure since I have a record. Your milage may differ off course. But the fact remains of what a massive time sink HoI2 was, and this is why people expect a game that might not be just as big a time sink, but close enough. And this is where it failed. Not so much in the eyes of the first time buyer, but in the eyes of the paradox regular.

And THAT is why we paradox regulars come here to whine. So the devs know we didn't like it so they make sure HoI3 is a massive time sink :)
 
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