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The clan Maximotl, now under Pater Familas Decius (II). This time though, a more quiet academic man, not tall and buff, wanted to take the challenge. His name is Crispis, of the Pontifex Maximii, the branch that focused on wisdom and knowledge. He chooses the cautious way. He is known for his quiet cunning, yet he is not shy, timid.

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Some notes on Maximotl culture/religion.

While the Maximotl practice the state religion and culture, they also fiercely preserve their own, as well as their language, within the privacy of home. They have much of the culture of the Romans. They treat religion very businesslike, though they have great family respect.
 

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Clan Tlanextic believes in several of the same gods that Clan Yolotli does. Obviously, they place less value on marriage, and they pay mostly token homage to a majority of the gods, instead preferring to revere just a few deities in their rituals and vigils. Primarily, the three great gods of Techihuani, Aamitinemi, and Ayahuitlitzon. It is generally considered the choice of every adult which of the three they will dedicate themselves to. The greatest virtue revered by clan Tlanextic is unity. Because of this, they tend not to put much faith into the stories of the end times. Because the clan sees itself as a defender of the Altepetl, a great focus is placed on hunting and war, to the detriment of other crafts, although that by no means makes Clan Tlanextic non-industrious; they are simply not as adept as some of the other clans.
 

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My clan also believes in the Yolotli gods
However, they are mistaken in some aspects.

1. The God-king is the descendent of the Gods.
2. Magic is not real, it is an old wives tale and heretical, the only performers of magic are the Gods and Their descendent, The God-King.
3. Marriage is binding, but souls are still full before marriage.

I would like to remind the Tlanexic, that we built the walls and palisades around the city. We are the cities defenders.
 

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Matzatal, the current leader of the Cecuecacayotin, is now a much older man than the little boy that was at the first gathering of the clans so many years ago. Matzatal, although he wished to go on the trials, knew that, as an older man, would not likely triumph in the more physically demanding trials. His son and heir, Ceccuauhtli ((Snow Eagle)), was eager to take on the trials. Matzatal, like his father Ceccuetlachtli, would train his son to be prepared for the trials of the leader should they ever come. Now that they have, Matzatal has given Ceccuauhtli his permission to undertake the trials. In front of the other clans at the meeting, Ceccuauhtli declared boldly, "I, Ceccuauhtli of the Cecuecacayotin, shall undertake the trials and prove myself to be worthy of Tlatoani."

((Ceccuauhtli, with a bit of embarrassment on Clan Cecuecacayotin for their leader struggling on their trial at the first trials for Tlatoani, will adopt an aggressive strategy for the battle in order to quickly gain an advantage against his opponent. On the hunt, Ceccuauhtli will adopt a more cautious strategy, staying away from the bigger game unless he has a good shot at bagging them. After all, Acaluaccaquixti died to an elk while on the hunt.))

While Ceccuauhtli made his declaration, Matzatal was working to gather information on the culture, folklore, and religion of the Cecuecacayotin. Currently, the information was still being gathered and Matzatal was still waiting on some key points before discussing the clan's culture.

((I'm going to wait on Alex before giving a final word on what the Cecuecacayotin believe in. I've been residing with alex's clan for about 60 years now. I think they would've influenced me quite a bit. As traders, I also would have been exposed to what many other clans believe in, including the Yotoli's pantheon. I must also not forget the time before the Cecuecacayotin settled down and became potato farmers. The time when they still wandered the snow. So overall, I think my beliefs are going to be a bastard mish mash of Alex's Fire Serpent and the Yotoli's Pantheon along with some additions of my own.))

Matzatal also passed along a message to the Coaxoch and Xiuhcoatal clans.

Clans Coaxoch and Xiuhcoatal,

Our lands have so many people now, that I see more shacks than fields of camotlah ((potato)). We must move some of our people out. I propose that we should settle in the grassy plain east of Quaquahuicalla and bring some camotlahuan ((potatoes)) to plant in the fields there.

- Matzatal, Cecuecacayotin Clan Leader
 

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Matzatal, the current leader of the Cecuecacayotin, is now a much older man than the little boy that was at the first gathering of the clans so many years ago. Matzatal, although he wished to go on the trials, knew that, as an older man, would not likely triumph in the more physically demanding trials. His son and heir, Ceccuauhtli ((Snow Eagle)), was eager to take on the trials. Matzatal, like his father Ceccuetlachtli, would train his son to be prepared for the trials of the leader should they ever come. Now that they have, Matzatal has given Ceccuauhtli his permission to undertake the trials. In front of the other clans at the meeting, Ceccuauhtli declared boldly, "I, Ceccuauhtli of the Cecuecacayotin, shall undertake the trials and prove myself to be worthy of Tlatoani."

((Ceccuauhtli, with a bit of embarrassment on Clan Cecuecacayotin for their leader struggling on their trial at the first trials for Tlatoani, will adopt an aggressive strategy for the battle in order to quickly gain an advantage against his opponent. On the hunt, Ceccuauhtli will adopt a more cautious strategy, staying away from the bigger game unless he has a good shot at bagging them. After all, Acaluaccaquixti died to an elk while on the hunt.))

While Ceccuauhtli made his declaration, Matzatal was working to gather information on the culture, folklore, and religion of the Cecuecacayotin. Currently, the information was still being gathered and Matzatal was still waiting on some key points before discussing the clan's culture.

((I'm going to wait on Alex before giving a final word on what the Cecuecacayotin believe in. I've been residing with alex's clan for about 60 years now. I think they would've influenced me quite a bit. As traders, I also would have been exposed to what many other clans believe in, including the Yotoli's pantheon. I must also not forget the time before the Cecuecacayotin settled down and became potato farmers. The time when they still wandered the snow. So overall, I think my beliefs are going to be a bastard mish mash of Alex's Fire Serpent and the Yotoli's Pantheon along with some additions of my own.))

Matzatal also passed along a message to the Coaxoch and Xiuhcoatal clans.

A message arrive to Cecuecacayotin clan and Coaxoch clan
Your suggestion about relocating part of our population is wise and understanding. The clan Xiuhcoatal agrees with the preposition and its ready to settle there inmediatly.
 

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Mixpiltzin will be running for Tlatoani, may the Gods (more on that later) be on his side.
 
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The Cecuecacayotin Gods

The traditional beliefs of the Cecuecacayotin involves four gods that look like humans. There are two pairs of siblings, with one pair that represents the water and the other the earth. Each pair of siblings has a brother and a sister.

Ahuahmi, the Water Sister, is the embodiment of all the water in the world, including rivers, lakes, and the seas. She is also considered to be very knowledgeable and wise. Ahuahmi is depicted as very beautiful, with very long black straight hair that flows like water and very pale skin. Despite enjoying the company of her siblings, Ahuahmi prefers to be alone, often contemplating on something. Her husband is Cihuatl.

Quiatl, the Water Brother, is the embodiment of the movement of water, which involves rain and snow as well as life under the water. Quiatl is the one in Cecuecacayotin who is traditionally associated with the winter, as the snow and cold are blown in by Quiatl himself. Due to the varying nature of storms and rain, Quiatl is depicted as being very temperamental and quick to change his mind. One moment he is stoic and the next he is angry. He has straight blonde hair that is shoulder length and has pale skin. Quiatl is considered to be handsome His wife is Cuatlalan.

Cuatlalan, the Earth Sister, is the embodiment of the earth itself as well as the creator of all the plants on earth, including trees, shrubs, and grasses. Compared to Ahuahmi, Cuatlalan is still pretty but not as beautiful as Ahuahmi. Cuatlalan has long, curly brown hair and somewhat tanned skin. She is very compassionate and caring about others and is seen as the diplomat among the siblings. Her husband is Quiatl.

Cihuatl, the Earth Brother, is the creator of all the animals on the earth, seen as the movement of earth. Considering that humans are movement on earth as well, Cihuatl is traditionally seen as the creator of humans as well. Cihuatl is also considered to be also have hunting and battle as attributes as Cihuatal’s knowledge of animals would prove useful for hunters as well as those who wished to imitate the attributes of animals for combat. Cihuatl is depicted having various characteristics of animals, but the most prominent are his bravery, his aggressiveness, and his protectiveness. Cihuatal has brown hair that is short and curly, pale skin, excited or crazed eyes, depending on his mood, and looks more rough than Quiatl. His wife is Ahuahmi.

Having migrated down south from the snowy forests and come in closer contact with the other clans, the Cecuecacayotin adopted two new gods from the other clans.

Xiuhcoatl, The Fire Serpent, is from the Xiuhcoatl, who the Cecuecacayotin have been in contact with for many years. His domain is fire as well as the inner flames of life, the will. The Fire Serpent in Cecuecacayotin mythology is a creature that lives in the lava. When the water rose and caused the lava to shrink, Xiuhcoatl retreated to the volcanoes and isolated itself from the other gods. Xiuhcoatl was called upon to help humanity in their time of peril. Taking pity, Xiuhcoatl gave them fire to warm them and light the way.

Ixomitic, from the Yotili Pantheon, retains her roles as Goddess of bones, time, and death. She still has her touch which kills all plants and living beings. The Cecuecacayotin adopted Ixomitic as one of their gods due to her appealing portrayal as sympathetic to humanity as well as the counterpart to the Fire Serpent. In addition, she also fills in the role of death, which was previously distributed among the gods depending on the cause of death.

In the early years of Cecmiztl's reign, a god had been re popularized that had been merged with Ixomitic before. Cetacanetla represents frost, suffering, and the cruelest of humanity. He enjoys seeing life suffer and perish under different circumstances, particularly in the frost. Frost fits Cetacanetla's cruel and impersonal nature. Cetacanetla is partially responsible for scattering all of mankind as well as the great frost in the north. Cetacanetla is seen as the counterpart of Xiuhcoatl, leaving Ixomitic without any sort of counterpart.

((Edit: I updated Xiuhcoatl and added Cetacanetla to better reflect the mythology I'm shaping. I'm also planning to give Ixomitic a counterpart in the form of a forge god(ess?) once metalworking becomes a more prominent part of our society.))
 
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The Maximus Religion with the original 8 gods and corresponding virtues.

Iudexmaximus- Literally "the great judge," creator and ruler over all the world. Chief of the gods. Virtues: tradition, order and justice.

Dulcemater- "sweet mother", goddess of family, childbirth, marriage, procreation, and fertility, and wife to Iudexmaximus. Virtues: love and fidelity.

Soliflamma- the god of the sun, literally "The sun flame," and god of fire, sound, vision and light. Virtues: clarity and passion.

Sapatialuna- "wise moon", wife to Soliflamma, and goddess of the moon, nature, philosophy, quiet and knowledge. Virtues: understanding, wisdom, calm.

Bellamiles- "war soldier"- goddess of war, strategy and tactics, she is one of the Maximii's favorite deities, especially for the Maximus Fortis branch. Virtues: strength and courage.

Mortenebris- "Dark death", husband of Bellamiles, god of death, darkness, and the underworld, as well as earthquakes. Not really like by most Maximii. Virtues: secrecy, intrigue.

Agriseges- "farmer crops" is the god of crops, vegetation, farming, and plants, as well as peace and plenty. Virtues: peace, plenty, earth.

Marunda- "sea wave", goddess of water and wife of Agriseges, she is also the godess of storms and seas. Virtues: change and fluidness.
 

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Chapter III: A Trial of Strife
In early spring 63 years after the last set of trials, time had come once again, and all of Atlauhtipan gathered once more to witness the introductory Trial of Creativity.
Already here, the young girl known as Teicuih, cast shame on her clan, Yolotli, for she showed up, stooping in shame, without any real, new invention to show.

The remaining 3 contenders then continued on to the Trial of Wisdom, where another contestant was also eliminated from the trials. Mixpiltzin from the Clan of Necuametztli completely choked up when confronted with the philosophical questions in front of most of the people of Atlauhtipan. So now only Ceccuauhtli of the Cecuecacayotin and Quixpix (pronounced Kishpish), also known as Crispis among the Maximoh, were left.

Both Ceccuauhtli and Quixpix made it through all the trials, although Quixpix had come up with some slightly strange answers at the Trial of Wisdom, but the elder asking the questions still said they were quite acceptable. But Ceccuauhtli had also made a minor calculation mistake during the Trial of Numbers, and seemed somewhat exhausted during the third and second last trials, performing a slightly below average.


So, as the leaders gathered on the Tumulus of Acaluaccaquixti after the last trial, none of them knew who was to be Tlatoani. Both contenders had also passed this last trial, although Quixpix's performance was not very inspiring. The chiefs debated intensely. To make matters even worse, someone had vandalized the clay pit owned by Clan Tlanextic, and a bone knife engraved with a moon and a beehive had been found at the site, leading them to accuse Clan of Necuametztli (aka Clan of the Honey Moon) of the crime. Mixpiltzin of Necuametztli denies having anything to do with it, arguing that someone put the knife there to frame him.

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So, you need to figure out who should be Tlatoani. Or not. It's up to you. The chiefs of the clans with judging rights - Eztli and Coaxoch ( @JermanTK and @EmperorGrimm ) - could utter their opinions, or, if they're confident enough, maybe even declare a winner. Both contenders have won 5 out of 10 trials.

It will take 3 years to clear the clay pit of gravel and rocks from the Tlanextic clay pit (-1.4 production points).


Also, I updated the map.
 
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The other leaders couldn't help but noticing Xipil smiling as Teicuih came up short on their own trial. While initially confusing, rumors began to circulate that seemed to explain it. It seemed that they never wanted anyone in their clan to participate in the first place and that Teicuih was not the only one in the clan to volunteer. Xipil apparently chose her over more qualified candidates in a hope that she would fail the trials miserably. This seems to be substantiated by the fact that Xipil used her failure as proof that half-souls weren't capable of leading properly and that the dual leader system was superior. Of course, the propaganda wasn't perfect, since some were quick to point out that the other clans were led by just one ruler and the other participants did just fine on the trials, but Xipil was content to use Teicuih's failure to their advantage.

Now to the matters at hand, Xipil stepped forth to offer their opinions. "Perhaps another trial could be arranged for the Tlatoani. One that could only have one victor. It was said in days of old that leaders would be chosen by blood sport. The strongest of the clan would rise up and fight until only one remained and they would be the next leader. This could be used here. It is clear that these two men are equally skilled, so let the gods and their skill in personal combat separate them. The first one to yield or be rendered unable to yield through maiming or death, will be declared the loser and the other the victor. Of course, this is but a humble suggestion, that I put forward to the rest of the clan leaders, particularly the leaders of the Eztli and Coaxoch since they are our judges and their opinions decide the victor."

"And as for the cowardly acts of vandalism against the Tlanextic clan's clay pit, I offer to stand as a mediator between the two sides, if both the Tlanextic clan and Necuametztli clan allow it. Perhaps we could have a group of three leaders to help quickly resolve this issue. The council may be chosen from those leaders who volunteer and would require the approval of both clans for a leader to be part of this group to prevent the verdict being decided by clan politics and allies and enemies. These actions are troubling and must be resolved not only swiftly but justly and the truth must be found."
 

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Tonauac (it's a hereditary name, expect to see it quite a bit) of Clan Tlanextic was rightfully outraged by the vile act of vandalism and destruction against his clan's clay pit. That a member of clan Necuametztli would perpetrate such an attack against my clan's very livelihood, without provocation, is an unseemly and cowardly thing. I wish to have words with the Necuametztli achcuahtli, so that we may settle this in an acceptable manner.
 

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Quixpix thought for a moment. "I do not like the idea of a blood sport trial. I understand its purpose, but in a society where there are much fewer people than before, having a trial where someone is killed is not a wise choice. What clan would send their best? The odds are too high, and we have to many men to risk losing."
 

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Quixpix thought for a moment. "I do not like the idea of a blood sport trial. I understand its purpose, but in a society where there are much fewer people than before, having a trial where someone is killed is not a wise choice. What clan would send their best? The odds are too high, and we have to many men to risk losing."

"I think you misunderstand my meaning. The trial would break the tie between you and Ceccuauhtli. No one else would participate. We could reserve this for other such ties."
 

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"I think you misunderstand my meaning. The trial would break the tie between you and Ceccuauhtli. No one else would participate. We could reserve this for other such ties."

"I see your point. I respectfully disagree. Wouldn't another challenge work better, rather than having this village lose 1 honorable man? I would like to see if anyone else has another idea to settle this."
 

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"I see your point. I respectfully disagree. Wouldn't another challenge work better, rather than having this village lose 1 honorable man? I would like to see if anyone else has another idea to settle this."

So your representative is a coward? to die is natural and good. If he fights and die then he wasn't meant to rule, if he kills his opponent then his opponent wasnt meant to rule by the fire serpent, its clear and easy.
 

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So your representative is a coward? to die is natural and good. If he fights and die then he wasn't meant to rule, if he kills his opponent then his opponent wasnt meant to rule by the fire serpent, its clear and easy.

"Hear hear! To feel Ixomitic's embrace is a natural part of the cycle. We all must feel her touch at some point and we will all come back again to live an unending number of lives. Only the low and the cowards must worry about death for they will come back as the lowest of beings, the worms that crawl under our feet. If our challengers are virtuous and brave they need not fear death and they will come back to us again in our time of need, greater and stronger from facing death."
 

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OK, fine, I will participate, to uselessly throw lives away. Why dont we all just die now? Lets all kill eachother and make the whole village better by letting everyone die in the mud. I will participate, though it goes against all logic. Next challenge we will be made to who can burn down the town first." He mutters under his breath and no one can hear him say((without metagaming)) "what a bunch of idiots."
 

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So your representative is a coward? to die is natural and good. If he fights and die then he wasn't meant to rule, if he kills his opponent then his opponent wasnt meant to rule by the fire serpent, its clear and easy.
I can't say that I agree. Are these two not recognized as the two best of this tribe? Should we really take our two most valuable resources and pit them against each other so that one of them is wasted? Would you store grain in the same house as you store torches? It seems a petty waste to me.
 

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((Can we get a reply from the other contender Ceccuauhtli? @Galren ))

((You may start sending orders for turn 2 if you know what you want to do. Players who have been inactive since we decided upon the trials many years ago (@Deaghaidh @EmperorGrimm @aedan777 ) must send orders this turn, or else their bloodlines will die out.))

Also, I'm introducing a new mechanic aimed to make culture a less useless resource in this forum game:

Public opinion and the cultural values of our people can be influenced at any time if you have culture points at your disposal. You must state what it is you want to change, such as the view on violence, religious beliefs etc., and then all players with culture points must vote. Their votes are weighted according to the amount of culture produced each turn. If your change receives a majority of the weighted vote, your change goes through. This is useful if you for instance wants your religion to dominate society or get people to vote on your party in elections.


Currently, the Tlatoani and the Necentlaliliztli are in complete control of public opinion.
 
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