I vote aye for the leader of the clan, or a man whom the clan leader chooses from his clan. That brings two questions. There is only one representative for each clan, and is it agnatic((males only))?
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There are a couple of conflicts with the questions that you have proposed. The first question's (the one representative) conflict is Clan Yotoli, who has two heads of the clan, one male and one female. The Yotoli, however, sees these two as one person. If one of the heads die, the other is ritually sacrificed as they believe half of a person cannot rule. Overall, the Yotoli's leaders, after close examination, should be fine on the necentlaliliztli ((assembly)) as they are treated as one by their clan.
The other question about agnatic has the Xiuhcoatl as the primary conflict, although a few of the other clans can potentially have a female head. The Xiuhcoatl are a matriarchy, and as such primarily have female rulers. Since the heads of the clans are the members of the necentlaliliztli, each clan determines who is their leader on the necentlaliliztli, so if the Xiuhcoatl promote a female head, then the lady will have the seat on the necentlaliliztli.
((1. Usually not, unless the multiple rulers are treated as one (like the Yotoli). 2. Dependent on clan for each member.))
The other question about agnatic has the Xiuhcoatl as the primary conflict, although a few of the other clans can potentially have a female head. The Xiuhcoatl are a matriarchy, and as such primarily have female rulers. Since the heads of the clans are the members of the necentlaliliztli, each clan determines who is their leader on the necentlaliliztli, so if the Xiuhcoatl promote a female head, then the lady will have the seat on the necentlaliliztli.
((1. Usually not, unless the multiple rulers are treated as one (like the Yotoli). 2. Dependent on clan for each member.))
The Tlanextic will not be entering our achcauhtli ((leader)) into the competition for Tlatoani, although we will gladly judge our own trial.
((Us being all cool and nation-buildy-like, we can presumably build more buildings in the future. Could we, perchance, get a list of these buildables at some point?))
((Kaisersohaib's clan will enter the tanning business shortly.
There won't be any list of buildings, since it would take up too much time. instead of choosing a building, you will choose a focus as described in the OP.
It is great that you put so much effort into creating new trials, but if no-one comes forward as Tlatoani, there won't be any use for them!))
There won't be any list of buildings, since it would take up too much time. instead of choosing a building, you will choose a focus as described in the OP.
It is great that you put so much effort into creating new trials, but if no-one comes forward as Tlatoani, there won't be any use for them!))
A tall buff black haired man stood up. He said to them, "I wish to prove my worth and become Tlatoani." I am Julius Maximus Fortis, brother in law of Decius and head of the sub branch Fortis of the Maximus clan."
The two Amoxtlis share a bemused glance. It's considered poor manners among the Yolotli to mention the miccacentlacol ((My attempt at "Death of the Half")) as many leaders do not enjoy dwelling on what happens if their other side were to die early. The two Amoxtlis then shared a few glances and hand movements. It's part of a secret language that they learned during a month of silent isolation together that all leaders of the Yolotli go through. The female Amoxtli added to these comments. "Yes, we are two bodies that speak with one voice and one soul. We will stand as one representative with one vote, equals among the other clans and their achcuahtlis ((leaders))."
The male Amoxtli responded to Decius. "I see no reason for the necentlaliliztli to be a privilege only for men. Let each clan send their leader whoever they may be. Any one who has the support of their clan and their traditions deserves the right to stand as an equal among all leaders. It is pointless to judge someone's worth by whether they are a man or a woman. Let their actions and words speak for them, both among their clan and the necantlaliliztli."
He then turned to address the larger group. "The Yolotli will send no one to try to be Tlatoani. These trials are not meant for a soul that lives in two bodies, as I do. And none of our clan are fit for such a task. They are merely centlacolanima ((half-souls)), not meant to lead."
Tenoch and Coaxoch Warriors
Tenoch listened calmly to the debate of the elders. He was satisfied with the trials proposed and decided to submit his own name to those who sought to be the first Tlatoani.
"Great Clans, I stand before you and declare my intent on serving as Tlatoani. Generations pass in these lands and our tribe persists through the many winters. Coaxoch wishes to extend the years of peace and abundance through great collective projects to settle new lands, to build up infrastructure to exploit the land and waters, and most importantly serve with virtue and strength as an example to future Tlatoani's.
We should cultivate our warriors in such a way that no beast or enemy can defeat them. They shall be feared to the ends of the valleys and forests. But if a man seeks peace with us and even more so if they have good wares to barter we should talk in peaceful tongues. Coaxoch being children of the Mother and the Deer King must honor the gifts of the game herds, the quiet forest watering holes, the plentiful trees that will give us warmth. I propose the building of shrines in the great villages where their names may be honored forever."
Clan Coaxoch
Seeing as no one else besides the Maximotl and the Coaxoch had stepped up yet to announce their desire to take the trials of becoming Tlatoani ((Head Speaker)), Ceccuetlachtli, after much thought, stood up from where he was. Although not as buff Julius, Ceccuetlachtli still had an athletic build. "I, Ceccuetlachtli of Clan Cecuecacayotin seek the position of Tlatoani and shall undertake the necessary to become one."
((I was the first one to step up, but it was quite hidden in my post. I'll make a clearer statement soon.))
NECUAMETZTLI
Ayahuiconetl stepped out of his tent, followed by his wife and friends. He had been there for two nights, the clan members could only guess what they were discussing in there.
"The time has come, my dear brethren. The time has come for us to rise from the darkness, for us to lead our nation to the light, for us to cooperate with the neighbors on a greater plan, a greater idea. I believe that I am capable of this great task, it will stress me and it will gray my hair, but it is worth it, for there is no better feeling than victory.
I, Ayahuiconetl of Necuametztli, will be a candidate for Tlatoani. I count with your support, wish me luck and pray to the gods that I win."
Amoxtli took some time and drew a few pictures to represent the trials and the current participants:
The Trials:
Clan Achtopochtecapiltzmeh - The aspiring Tlatoani will compete in a game of wits and strategy ((Barkardes said something about changing his to this, if not, it's still that they want precious metals))
Clan Tonatepotztocah - The aspiring Tlatoani must walk through a fire.
Clan Quallitechichic - An aspiring Tlatoani must go into the woods, survive there on his own for a month, and come back with the largest and most dangerous prey he can find.
Clan Xiuhcoatl - An aspiring Tlatoani must receive the mark of Xiuhcoatl without falling, staggering or flinching.
Clan Atlaticquipiltzmeh- The aspiring Tlatoani must recite an ancient poem of leadership from memory
Clan Maximotl - The aspiring Tlatoani must sit with the wisest man of the Maximotl clan where he will be asked a series of questions. He must answer 3/4 of the questions soundly or correctly.
Clan Cecuecacayotin - The aspiring Tlatoani will lead a force in a mock battle in a test of military tactics
Clan Yolotli - The aspiring Tlatoani must present some creative work, whether it be a new idea, a new tool, a new instrument, a work of art, a piece of music, etc.
Clan Tlanextic - The aspiring Tlatoani will perform in the rite of Ixtozoa ((night vigil)). The Tlatoani must stay awake for as many consecutive nights as possible, until he passes out.
Clan Necuametztli - An aspiring Tlatoani will have a day to solve complex numerical problems
The Participants:
Julius Maximus Fortis (Maximotl) ((Ironhide G1))
Tenoch of Coaxoch ((EmperorGrimm))
Ceccuetlachtli of Cecuecacayotin ((Galren))
Ayahuiconetl of Necuametztli ((Kaisersohaib))
Amoxtli looked at the ten proposed trials and noted that the clans seemed to value physical endurance and fortitude (Xiuhcoatl, Tlanextic), fearlessness (Tonatepotztocah), intelligence and wisdom (Achtopochtecaplitzmeh, Maximotl, Necuametztli, Atlaticquiplitzmeh), military tactics (Cecuecacayotin and Achtopochtecapilitzmeh), hunting and self sufficiency (Quallitechichic), and creativity (Yolotli) as important traits for a leader.
((Thought it would be good to organize all of this for people. If I missed a trial let me know.))
The Trials:
Clan Achtopochtecapiltzmeh - The aspiring Tlatoani will compete in a game of wits and strategy ((Barkardes said something about changing his to this, if not, it's still that they want precious metals))
Clan Tonatepotztocah - The aspiring Tlatoani must walk through a fire.
Clan Quallitechichic - An aspiring Tlatoani must go into the woods, survive there on his own for a month, and come back with the largest and most dangerous prey he can find.
Clan Xiuhcoatl - An aspiring Tlatoani must receive the mark of Xiuhcoatl without falling, staggering or flinching.
Clan Atlaticquipiltzmeh- The aspiring Tlatoani must recite an ancient poem of leadership from memory
Clan Maximotl - The aspiring Tlatoani must sit with the wisest man of the Maximotl clan where he will be asked a series of questions. He must answer 3/4 of the questions soundly or correctly.
Clan Cecuecacayotin - The aspiring Tlatoani will lead a force in a mock battle in a test of military tactics
Clan Yolotli - The aspiring Tlatoani must present some creative work, whether it be a new idea, a new tool, a new instrument, a work of art, a piece of music, etc.
Clan Tlanextic - The aspiring Tlatoani will perform in the rite of Ixtozoa ((night vigil)). The Tlatoani must stay awake for as many consecutive nights as possible, until he passes out.
Clan Necuametztli - An aspiring Tlatoani will have a day to solve complex numerical problems
The Participants:
Julius Maximus Fortis (Maximotl) ((Ironhide G1))
Tenoch of Coaxoch ((EmperorGrimm))
Ceccuetlachtli of Cecuecacayotin ((Galren))
Ayahuiconetl of Necuametztli ((Kaisersohaib))
Amoxtli looked at the ten proposed trials and noted that the clans seemed to value physical endurance and fortitude (Xiuhcoatl, Tlanextic), fearlessness (Tonatepotztocah), intelligence and wisdom (Achtopochtecaplitzmeh, Maximotl, Necuametztli, Atlaticquiplitzmeh), military tactics (Cecuecacayotin and Achtopochtecapilitzmeh), hunting and self sufficiency (Quallitechichic), and creativity (Yolotli) as important traits for a leader.
((Thought it would be good to organize all of this for people. If I missed a trial let me know.))
((Thanks, happycats!
This is how I'm thinking that trials will work: Since you don't have any traits apart from your businesses,and since we want to be other things than playing trials, the results of most of the trials will be based on dice rolls, with your characters' trades maybe also having an effect. Maybe we can go in-depth with some of them from time to time, and you can cheat during the trials through sending me intrigue orders at the time of the announcements of your participation, but otherwise, the trials will mostly just be a bit of awesome lore.
I will determine the winner tonight if I can, otherwise tomorrow!))
This is how I'm thinking that trials will work: Since you don't have any traits apart from your businesses,and since we want to be other things than playing trials, the results of most of the trials will be based on dice rolls, with your characters' trades maybe also having an effect. Maybe we can go in-depth with some of them from time to time, and you can cheat during the trials through sending me intrigue orders at the time of the announcements of your participation, but otherwise, the trials will mostly just be a bit of awesome lore.
I will determine the winner tonight if I can, otherwise tomorrow!))
((I'm explaining my trial))
"The boardgame will be a secret in my family.The candidate will be educated about the basics of the game and will be given 10 tries.Winning is not essential since our family has been playing the game.He passes the test if he handles the game enough.The leader of clan Achtopochtecapiltzmeh will decide that.This would test both his intelligency and military skill."
Chicahua,leader of Clan Achtopochtecapiltzmeh
"The boardgame will be a secret in my family.The candidate will be educated about the basics of the game and will be given 10 tries.Winning is not essential since our family has been playing the game.He passes the test if he handles the game enough.The leader of clan Achtopochtecapiltzmeh will decide that.This would test both his intelligency and military skill."
Chicahua,leader of Clan Achtopochtecapiltzmeh
The Ixtozoa is not about simple endurance. It is not just about lasting longer than your opponent. TO be a good Tlatoani, something more is needed. True, one should endeavor to stand as long as possible, but how you stand is also important. Would a good Tlatoani huddle on the ground, or brace himself in the face of the wind? One might afford him greater endurance, but at what consequence? If an achcuahtli stands in place in the night's chill without flinching, and maintaining the proper bearing of a leader, especially if (s)he outlasts all other contenders, than the Tlanextic will have no trouble voting for the next Tlatoani.
The female aspect of Amoxtli spoke up. "Aren't you simply describing fortitude? Is that not merely courage in the face of adversity and pain? I said your test values endurance and fortitude and I believe that is accurate. The Mark of Xiuhcoatl is much the same from what I understand. It's not about merely enduring the pain of receiving the mark but doing it in a dignified manner, befitting of a leader, rather than crying like a babe.
((A visual of what Julius looks like))
Julius asked the question, "Will it be who can do the most trials or do we have to pass every single trial?"
Julius asked the question, "Will it be who can do the most trials or do we have to pass every single trial?"
Chapter I: The Trials
A few days after the clan leaders had finally reached a decision after days of discussions in the Hall of Acaluaccaquixti, the trials which were to determine who would be the first Tlatoani of Atlauhtipan. The first trials, in which the wits and intellect of the competitors were tested, drew a huge crowd; almost the whole of Atlauhtipan were gathered to watch the fire-walking and mock battles of the first half of the trials. The competitors mostly proved to possess great intelligence and skill, except for Ceccuetlachtli of the Snow Wanderers, whose performance was slightly below mediocre, although it wasn't quite enough to get him disqualified, as he did make it through both the battle and the trial of fire, however, according to some, he did not uphold the attitude of a strong leader, seeming somewhat desperate during the battle and visibly wincing after having stepped through the fire.
The true game changer proved to be the Trial of the Hunt. The aspirants set out into the wilderness, eager to seek out great beasts to show for their great hunting skills when they would return home after a month in the wilderness. Yoliotl, or Julius, of Clan Maximotl, as well as Ceccuetlachtli of the Cecuecacayotin ventured north into the frozen forests of the northern mountain valleys, while Ayahuiconetl of the Honey Moon Clan went east into the slightly warmer eastern part of the green lands. Tenoch of the Flower Serpent Clan stayed in the most distant parts of Copallan, an area that was rather well-known to him. This was perhaps a wise choice on his part, for when the day to return to Atlauhtipan came, he returned hauling a big heptodon after him on a travois.
After Tenoch came Ayahuiconetl, who smelled of tannin despite having been in the woods for a month. He had failed in hunting down anything and was thus out of the competition, but was in possession of a sizable purse of gold, which led some to believe he had stayed with some distant tribe while he was away. Ceccuetlachtli hadn't hunted down any game worthy of mention either, and he too had been forced to seek out a tribe living in the frozen wastes for shelter. At least he had come back with a small purse of gold and valuable metals for trading away his last potatoes. Yoliotl of the Maximotin came home from the snowy wastes last, carrying two opossums. While not an impressive catch, he was still in the competition.
In the following Trial of the Night Vigil, neither Ayahuiconetl or Ceccuectlachtli managed to stand through the first night. Thus, only Tenoch and Yoliotl stood through a full day, but Tenoch was visibly exhausted, and did not maintain a leaderlike stance throughout the trial, resorting to squatting close to the end. However, Tenoch stood for the full 24 hours, which was still something. On the other hand, Yoliotl stood for another full day before succumbing to exhaustion, and was the clear winner of this trial.
The two last trials passed much like the Trial of the Night Vigil, with Tenoch barely making it through, wincing during the Trial of the Fire Serpent and stuttering somewhat during his recitation of the poem in the Trial of Poetry, and with Yoliotl performing admirably, maintaining a proud attitude and reciting his poem with a strong, inspiring voice.
As Yoliotl finished reciting the poem in front of the tribe from atop the Tumulus of Acaluaccaquixti, the crowd began cheering. The other clan leaders climbed the mountain to congratulate their Tlatoani, for it seemed clear that Yoliotl of the Maximotin, known among his own as Julius Maximus Fortis, was the one who was most suitable for becoming the first Tlatoani of Atlauhtipan, despite being a foreigner and not even being leader of a clan.
Then, the cheering died down as Ilhuitl of the Eztli Clan stepped forward from the group of clan leaders, who were now all gathered behind Yoliotl and Tenoch. His clan was the only one not to set up a trial and not to have a clan member in the competition, and thus it was his obligation to raise the arm of the winner, proclaiming him Tlatoani.
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So, it seems that Yoliotl has won the competition most honorably. However, if anyone wishes to object, this is your last opportunity. Ilhuitl (@JermanTK ) has been put in an especially good position to do so, if he so wishes.
But otherwise we should continue on with the game. Now starts the first turn of the game! Therefore I ask you to send economic orders with what you will focus on building and any military orders if you want to move around with your warriors. In general, just send orders. I will finish stats as soon as possible.
Also, some people from Teutontlalpan (THE THEEDES) to the south as well as Kemetlalpan to the northwest have come by Atlauhtipan, sailing the river in small boats. Maybe establishing relations with them might be a good first task for the government. Some people (I'm thinking of you galren) would certainly have this in their interests.
A few days after the clan leaders had finally reached a decision after days of discussions in the Hall of Acaluaccaquixti, the trials which were to determine who would be the first Tlatoani of Atlauhtipan. The first trials, in which the wits and intellect of the competitors were tested, drew a huge crowd; almost the whole of Atlauhtipan were gathered to watch the fire-walking and mock battles of the first half of the trials. The competitors mostly proved to possess great intelligence and skill, except for Ceccuetlachtli of the Snow Wanderers, whose performance was slightly below mediocre, although it wasn't quite enough to get him disqualified, as he did make it through both the battle and the trial of fire, however, according to some, he did not uphold the attitude of a strong leader, seeming somewhat desperate during the battle and visibly wincing after having stepped through the fire.
The true game changer proved to be the Trial of the Hunt. The aspirants set out into the wilderness, eager to seek out great beasts to show for their great hunting skills when they would return home after a month in the wilderness. Yoliotl, or Julius, of Clan Maximotl, as well as Ceccuetlachtli of the Cecuecacayotin ventured north into the frozen forests of the northern mountain valleys, while Ayahuiconetl of the Honey Moon Clan went east into the slightly warmer eastern part of the green lands. Tenoch of the Flower Serpent Clan stayed in the most distant parts of Copallan, an area that was rather well-known to him. This was perhaps a wise choice on his part, for when the day to return to Atlauhtipan came, he returned hauling a big heptodon after him on a travois.
After Tenoch came Ayahuiconetl, who smelled of tannin despite having been in the woods for a month. He had failed in hunting down anything and was thus out of the competition, but was in possession of a sizable purse of gold, which led some to believe he had stayed with some distant tribe while he was away. Ceccuetlachtli hadn't hunted down any game worthy of mention either, and he too had been forced to seek out a tribe living in the frozen wastes for shelter. At least he had come back with a small purse of gold and valuable metals for trading away his last potatoes. Yoliotl of the Maximotin came home from the snowy wastes last, carrying two opossums. While not an impressive catch, he was still in the competition.
In the following Trial of the Night Vigil, neither Ayahuiconetl or Ceccuectlachtli managed to stand through the first night. Thus, only Tenoch and Yoliotl stood through a full day, but Tenoch was visibly exhausted, and did not maintain a leaderlike stance throughout the trial, resorting to squatting close to the end. However, Tenoch stood for the full 24 hours, which was still something. On the other hand, Yoliotl stood for another full day before succumbing to exhaustion, and was the clear winner of this trial.
The two last trials passed much like the Trial of the Night Vigil, with Tenoch barely making it through, wincing during the Trial of the Fire Serpent and stuttering somewhat during his recitation of the poem in the Trial of Poetry, and with Yoliotl performing admirably, maintaining a proud attitude and reciting his poem with a strong, inspiring voice.
As Yoliotl finished reciting the poem in front of the tribe from atop the Tumulus of Acaluaccaquixti, the crowd began cheering. The other clan leaders climbed the mountain to congratulate their Tlatoani, for it seemed clear that Yoliotl of the Maximotin, known among his own as Julius Maximus Fortis, was the one who was most suitable for becoming the first Tlatoani of Atlauhtipan, despite being a foreigner and not even being leader of a clan.
Then, the cheering died down as Ilhuitl of the Eztli Clan stepped forward from the group of clan leaders, who were now all gathered behind Yoliotl and Tenoch. His clan was the only one not to set up a trial and not to have a clan member in the competition, and thus it was his obligation to raise the arm of the winner, proclaiming him Tlatoani.
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So, it seems that Yoliotl has won the competition most honorably. However, if anyone wishes to object, this is your last opportunity. Ilhuitl (@JermanTK ) has been put in an especially good position to do so, if he so wishes.
But otherwise we should continue on with the game. Now starts the first turn of the game! Therefore I ask you to send economic orders with what you will focus on building and any military orders if you want to move around with your warriors. In general, just send orders. I will finish stats as soon as possible.
Also, some people from Teutontlalpan (THE THEEDES) to the south as well as Kemetlalpan to the northwest have come by Atlauhtipan, sailing the river in small boats. Maybe establishing relations with them might be a good first task for the government. Some people (I'm thinking of you galren) would certainly have this in their interests.
((Gold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Some dirty heptodon))
Ilhuitl walked up to Yoliotl and asked him to get on one knee. He then presented him with a wreath of flowers and then said "Yoliotl of Maximotl, you have won honorably, and skillfully may you lead well." Yoliotl then rose and Ilhuitl got of the ground and pledged himself to him.