[Forum Game]Fallout Realism: Vault 191

[Rovsea]

This is almost acceptable, however there is no mention of term limits. Would these judges rule for life? Judges should be appointed every 5 years, like the cabinet or other important positions. And yes I agree we should have a constitution Congressman Armstrong, but that does not mean we should accept the first piece of garbage labeled 'constitution' put before us.

We need a base to work with. The basic ideal of three branches of Government: Legislative, Judicial, and Executive, is important in any legislative document. Even if the specifics are not there yet, you agree that judges and Congressional leadership are somewhat necessary. Therefore, accept this document with my promise that an opportunity will be created immediately for in-depth review and modification to more adequately preserve the Vault, its People, and their Freedom.

 

[Korona]

This is almost acceptable, however there is no mention of term limits. Would these judges rule for life? Judges should be appointed every 5 years, like the cabinet or other important positions. And yes I agree we should have a constitution Congressman Armstrong, but that does not mean we should accept the first piece of garbage labeled 'constitution' put before us.

Section F added. I hope you can agree with this Constitution Congressman, as the Vault needs it.

 

[Bialaska]

Constitution of Vault 191
Created by Michael Alexander on behalf of the People of Vault 191. Edited by Steve C. Olbert and Donald Swanson.


Article I

All citizens of Vault 191 shall have the right to free speech and press, peacefully protest the government, receive notice of their charge upon arrest, and receive a fair and free trial.

Article II

Section A
The executive branch of vault 191 will be headed by an Overseer. This Overseer will be democratically elected, and can be impeached by a 2/3 supermajority in Congress. In addition, the executive branch shall contain a cabinet of key government officials including the Head of Security, Head Technician, Head Doctor, and Head Educator.

Section B
The Cabinet of the Office of the Overseer may be appointed and fired freely so long as the Overseer agrees, with the exception of the Head of Security. The Head of Security must be appointed by the Overseer and approved by a two-thirds majority of the Congress of Vault 191.

Section C
The position of Overseer shall consist of a five-year term elected by a simple majority of the Congress of vault 191.

Article III

Section A
The Congress of Vault 191 shall compose of the legislative branch. It shall be a body of ten members for each level, headed by an Arbiter of the Congress.

Section B
All laws considered or passed by the Congress of Vault 191 shall require only a simple majority with the exception of constitutional amendments, cabinet approval, removal from office or judicial approval, which shall require a two-thirds majority.

Section C
A Congressman shall hold a five-year term, elected by the citizens of Vault 191. The Arbiter of the Congress shall hold a five-year term, and be a Congressman appointed by a simple majority of the Congress of Vault 191.

Section D
Either Overseer may issue a veto of legislation, except in the event such legislation is a constitutional amendment, vote for impeachment, vote for removal from office, or vote for confirmation.

Section E
The Arbiter of the Congress shall have all normal powers as a Congressman, but with the added power of casting an addition vote should a tie emerge on any piece of legislation.

Article IV

Section A
The judicial branch shall be headed a Supreme Court, consisting of five justices.

Section B
The duties of the Supreme Court shall be to oversee cases involving the constitutionality of laws or actions taken by either the executive or the legislative branch and to act as justices in criminal cases. All five justices shall cast one vote, with a simple majority required to reach a decision.

Section C
A Supreme Court Justice may be appointed by an Overseer, but must receive a two-thirds majority from the Congress of Vault 191 to be confirmed. Said Justice must not be corruptible, and must adhere to the Constitution of Vault 191.

Section D
A corrupt or unruly Justice may be removed from office via a 2/3 majority vote in Congress.

Section E
Congress can overrule the Supreme Court's decision via a 3/4 supermajority vote.

Article V

Section A
The Cabinet of the Office of the Overseer, Office of the Overseer, or any member of the Congress of Vault 191 may be impeached and then removed from office.

Section B
Such individual may be impeached if there is strong suspicion that said individual has committed a crime. The Congress of Vault 191 shall commence a simple majority vote to determine if there is strong enough suspicion for said individual to be impeached. Upon successful impeachment, the Congress of Vault 191 must then appoint an official to investigate such claims of illegality and bring charges against the impeached official.

Section C
An impeached official shall have all power temporarily stripped until they are either found guilty or innocent of the charges brought upon them.

Section D
Upon being informed of the charges against him, the impeached official shall be allowed a defense and a trial will commence with the assembly of the Congress of Vault 191 present. At the conclusion of said trial, the Congress of Vault 191 must determine if the impeached official is guilty of the levied charges. A two-thirds majority is required to remove the impeached official from office.

Article VI

This Constitution shall be considered the highest law of the land. Any law that conflicts with this Constitution is considered null and void.

Article VII

All legislation passed by the Congress of Vault 191 prior to this Constitution being adopted shall be considered valid.

Article VIII

This Constitution may be amended in the future, requiring a two-thirds majority vote from the Congress of Vault 191.

Article XI

Section A
The military branch of the Vault shall be loyal to the people of the Vault and to the majority of Congress, rather than the Overseer

Section B
The responsibilities of the military branch of the Vault is responsible for upholding the laws within the Vault and for the security against both internal and external enemies. However it is not their duty to act as the judging power, this duty is handled by the judicial branch.

Section C
The military branch consists of 3 separate units, one per level. Each unit is under the command of a Commander, whose superior is considered to Congress. The composition of these units is decided by the Commander based on the budget allocated by Congress.

Section D
The Overseer may in cases of extreme emergency ask for Emergency Powers and assume direct command over the military branch. These Emergency Powers last for 24 hours, unless extended by Congress.

I propose this altered constitution. It includes everything wanted by Mr. Olbert and Mr. Alexander.

 

[Korona]

I can agree to this Constitution.

 

[baboushreturns]

And so it passes. Update tomorrow

 

[LatinKaiser]

And so it passes. Update tomorrow

((Only Korona voted, bab. Check ur maths m8 ))

 

[Bialaska]

((Only Korona voted, bab. Check ur maths m8 ))

((Korona 6 votes, Swanson 5 votes, possibly some independents too))

 

[LatinKaiser]

((Korona 6 votes, Swanson 5 votes, possibly some independents too))

((Oh... yeah. Sorry.))

 

[lordmichael95]

I propose this altered constitution. It includes everything wanted by Mr. Olbert and Mr. Alexander.

Two minor problems with this constitution. In Article III, Section D it still refers to two Overseers. The second problem is that the Constitution goes from Article VIII to Article XI, missing both Article IX and X. Perhaps Article XI should be labeled Article IX? ((Unless secret Articles were added to the Constitution :unsure)

And might I remind you that by the constitution as it is, the judges can block any legislation they feel like, which could very well be the case against laws that would limit their power.

Congressman,

This is an incorrect statement. Article VIII gives the Congress the power to change the constitution, which the courts cannot block.

~Congressman Michael Alexander, of the United Homesteaders

 

[DharmaHelper]

In accordance with my authority as Censor, I have decided to institute a moral code for all citizens of Nova Roma to abide by.

Regimen Morum
​

• 
  [*]All citizens of Nova Roma are expected to act in a manner that reflects the honor, dignity, and respect afforded by their station
  [*]All citizens of Nova Roma are expected to treat their fellow citizens with the honor, dignity, and respect befitting their station.
  [*]No citizen of Nova Roma should indulge in excess
  

Citizens found in violation of the Regimen Morum outlined above are subject to punishment, at the Censor's discretion.



- By Order of Marcus Caepasius Gracchus, Censor of Nova Roma

 

[Mikkel Glahder]

Lazarus as depicted at his 400th year of life​

Name: Lazarus
Age: 400 years old, though it is disputed
Political party: None
Profession: Oracle, psychic
Bio:
Lazarus, was according to himself, born 400 years ago, and therefore remembers the start of the nuclear war. Some, however disputes how old he is, since he doesn't look like a 400 year old. However, his tales from the before the war, make many people believe him. He was found by the "loyalist" exile government of the Vault. They saw his AK-47 lying besides him, and was prepared for everything. However, Lazarus only said: "I have been expecting you for a long time." The soldiers was still suspicious about him, but they felt something, when they were near him. An aura of some sort. They let him inside their society, and many make use of his ability as an oracle. They want to hear about their future, and what happened in the past. Some say, that he also have 12 stories about evil creatures, that combat some kind of god. He is also having frequently psychic and contradictory dreams about people's history and they future. The most current dream, was about Khans execution. He knew who Khan was. He is currently residing with Nova Roma in the Apartment Complex. It is also known that he has a good relationship, with animals and mutants.

 

[Tufto]

Today, an envoy is launched to the nearby market town. We hope that this shall be the beginning of a great co-operation and many trading links.

-signed, Consul Cassius Scipius Arius.

 

[Dadarian]

(Due to my GMing in another game, I have to bow out of this one)

 

[Nodscouterr]

Order: Decima Domitia Nerva will take a squad of 5 Praetorian Guards, as well as herself, in light armour and pistols as well as any rifles that could be found, to scout out the settlement near Nova Roma cautiously and from a distance.

 

[DharmaHelper]

Every citizen of Nova Roma is hereby ordered to report to the first Census, where I, as Censor, will make a record of Nova Roma's citizenry and their property. Citizens unable to report for the Census may appoint someone from among their family to go in their stead, given that the information this proxy provides is accurate. Once the Census is complete, citizens should anticipate being assigned work based on their prior experience and expertise.

- By Order of Marcus Caepasius Gracchus, Censor of Nova Roma

 

[Mikkel Glahder]

Lazarus walked slowly up to the desk, where he stood until Marcus Caepasius Gracchus, looked up to him, wondering how he got past the guards without him being informed first. Marcus looked a little confused at Lazarus who said calmly:

"I want to report myself as a free citizen of Nova Roma."

"How did you get past the guards?" - Marcus asked with a curious voice

"I used my feet to walk past them and into your office" - He answered

Marcus looked confused and then found paper and ink, and wrote down his name, and chose for him, to become the Librarian of Nova Roma, mainly to find him a place where he could assemble his thoughts.

Lazarus list of properties:


An AK-47 with Ammo

A desk made of wood

A bed made of twisted tree

A map of the stars and the Zodiac

Physical description:

Lazarus is a slender man, who is however very physical strong. So don't judge the book by its cover. He is about 1.93 meters high.

Past experience:

Private under WWI (un-proven and disputed)

Tank commander under WWII (un-proven and disputed)

Brigade-General in WWIII (some books which Lazarus owns, mentions a Brigade-General of the name Lazarus Contoldiou)

Oracle

 

[Lonelylurker]

While all this political wrangling is going on Sean Kelly Begins studying the AK-47 recently traded to the surface guards and attempts to replicate it, or at least something similar.

 

[Tufto]

((Dharma approved that, right?))

 

[DharmaHelper]

((Yes, that's fine))

 

[baboushreturns]

The Vault February 11th-20th 2290​

In the days following the elections congress was abuzz with activity. For many of these politicians the first and most important order of business would be the establishment of a constitution however of course there was the customary political bashing which had to be done Congressmen Mycroft was of course accused of treason by the radicals of the people's party. Though due to the efforts of congressman like Michael Alexander business quickly went back to normal.

Under the leadership of Alexander and with the assistance of the congressmen from the Technicians and Engineers Union the Alexandrian constitution was brought up once again however it did not receive broad support at first receiving criticism from both the Libertarian and People's Parties and due to this it had to be amended not one time but several times. During all of this debate and cross debate the people of the vault began to become frustrated with the slowness of their government and some people even began small protests however this quickly abated when it was met with a stern response from Union enforcers.

In response to the Alexandrian Constitution Foulcat once again presented the Constitution of the people however due to what many dubbed his extremist views his masterpiece was rejected. This opened up a new round of debate in which Swanson promised his support and that of the Libertarian Party should several important amendments about the army and oaths be added. However Alexander while he did agree with the amendments as an idea believed that they should have been presented as bills instead of written into the constitution. However he simply could not receive the votes to pass his constitution without the Libertarian Party and therefor he sat resigned for the rest of the session.

However in a surprising move Nathan Armstrong one of the Constitution's first supporter managed to save the day. Calling for a recess he brought Swanson and Steven Olbert together rewriting the Alexandrian constitution and adding in Swanson's amendments they managed at last to get something past. Across the vault people celebrated and cheered on congress. Now overseers must be chosen the vault must be rebuilt!