Forts

[Bulldog773]

So how am I supposed to take land & defeat my enemy if Forts automatically takes everything back for the AI with no need for soldiers.

So I am Aragon & at war with Castile. I take like 7 territories and they have no army's then I lose all the capture territories because of forts and my war-score goes down and they take all the land back. Yet when they take territory from me the same thing does not happen, I have to physically move an army and take my land back. Am I missing something or is this game just fugling broke?

 

[Dominion]

You are missing something. Probably forts.

Automatic recapture does not happen if a fort is currently under siege or taken. Currently under siege means it suffices to put a single 1k stack on that fort.
And forts only recapture whatever is in their immediate area. If you zoom in you can even see a progress bar for the province's recapture.

 

[Bulldog773]

Right that's what I am saying. I can have 3 stacks taking 3 territories (I capture them, it turns colors) and move 3 armies out at the same time to capture 3 more. Then the previous captured land will have a bar and literally goes back to castile in like 7 seconds. How can I possibly win like that. I take land and they take it back faster than I can take it. But it does not work that way for me when they capture land.

It seems like if I capture land that has a fort I have to leave 1000 soldiers in it to keep it. That is dumb as shit. Unless I am missing something.

I recall a game when I was Castile & got attacked by France. They captured every single territory with 2 armies to win the war and not once did I regain a territory because of a fort.

How come it works for the AI and mot me?
How do I win a war if they take every captured territory back with no army?

 

[Dominion]

You didn't take it back because you had no forts and you win a war by occupying forts.

 

[SolSys]

Did you have forts? Were they mothballed?

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Land_warfare#Forts

 

[Bulldog773]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.... I finally found the missing piece

 

[Big Bad France]

You don't even need to occupy land that isn't adjacent to forts to take it in the peace deal. You only occupy those lands to hurt the economy of your war opponent, really. Just siege the forts. Remember that you will be treated as the attacker in the battle at an enemy fort, even if you were at the fort first, so try to win battles and weaken your opponent before sieging a fort on difficult terrain.

 

[makaramus]

new player?
Not about thread but: Dont fight with castille. you can get personal union with him (you dont need to be castile to get union... event works for allways to aid player) in this case since aragon is player he gets personal union as senior member while castile is junior member.
so if you wanted to be aragon for ideas you can get union, annex castile for free and refuse to change ideas.

 

[babuchas1]

You don't even need to occupy land that isn't adjacent to forts to take it in the peace deal. You only occupy those lands to hurt the economy of your war opponent, really. Just siege the forts. Remember that you will be treated as the attacker in the battle at an enemy fort, even if you were at the fort first, so try to win battles and weaken your opponent before sieging a fort on difficult terrain.

Well, you really should occupy not only the forts, but also the rest of enemy land. Otherwise they will rebuild their army all the time and attack your siegeing army.

 

[Big Bad France]

Well, you really should occupy not only the forts, but also the rest of enemy land. Otherwise they will rebuild their army all the time and attack your siegeing army.

I view tiny stacks on my side of the forts while the bulk of their army is retreated to the other side as a good thing. You can just send a couple of patrols to intercept them as they try to join the rest of their army. You can't bleed gold and manpower more efficiently than that.