Fortress won't fall for AI

[TheDarkside]

back in the 1490s, Oldenburg invaded a province next to it controlled by Venice. It's now 1543 and oldenburg's army of 27,000 troops is still seiging this fortress. The fort is small, and its health bar is yellow at about 3/4, which is how its been for the past 50 years. Is this a known bug?

 

[Kedryn]

Sounds like the 0/-5 bug. Where the number on the left is at 0, and the one on the right is -5. I have read that sometimes a siege will freeze at that number. Haven't seen it myself... though once a seige at -5 lasted for two more years from that point.

 

[TheDarkside]

When I get home I'll see if I can switch to Oldenburg from a save game to see what the numbers are...

 

[TheDarkside]

ok I loaded up as Oldenburg and the fortress status is 0/-3, not 0/-5.
Now what?

 

[AndrewT]

It doesn't seem to match any known bug. I assume you are on at least 1.01?

 

[TheDarkside]

I'm on 1.02. After 60 years they finally decided to assault the fort, which they succeeded in and venice finally signed a peace.

 

[Grunthex]

Keep in mind that coastal provinces are hard to siege, especially if it's in inclement terrain. I sat on a siege as Russia vs. Sweden's capital for 5 *years* ... 60 months. It never moved from 0/8.

The only times they seem to fall is if you get the magic 'fortress gives up' roll. Which is abominably rare.

 

[TheDarkside]

Originally posted by Grunthex
Keep in mind that coastal provinces are hard to siege, especially if it's in inclement terrain. I sat on a siege as Russia vs. Sweden's capital for 5 *years* ... 60 months. It never moved from 0/8.

The only times they seem to fall is if you get the magic 'fortress gives up' roll. Which is abominably rare.

You know when I typed 60 years I wasn't exaggerating, right? I can show you a save game from 1490s when they initially sieged it, then the 1550s where they're still sieging it. It's a small fortress too, but it is a coastal one. No CoT or anything special either. And they did have over 10k troops so you'd see the cannon fire every month, it wasnt just a bunch of guys securing the province all this time.

But apparently this can be associated with that 0/-5 bug, because I read that the -5 dosent have to do with it, but actually whatever the initial fortress strength was minus 8, so if this small fortress had a strength of 5, then this explains why its stuck at -3.

 

[AndrewT]

Yes, I now think you are right, it is associated with that older known bug. Hopefully it will be fixed in 1.03, after Johan gets back.

 

[unmerged(6105)]

I had an similiar problem when I played as Portugal. I was at war with Lenape and was sieging their two provinces, after an while they where both down on -3, so I waited. and waited. As nothing had happened in two years I began shipping more troops to the provinces... After eight years I was kind of irritated and angry... and I loaded in the beggining of the siege and used an other tactic instead. (I allowed them to build troops so I could gather win % by killing them as I could not take over Manhattan in any other way...)