Fortress Corsica

[CatKnight]

If you DV'd them, then wait 30 years and you should be able to DA them. I think the same factors that affect the chance they'll accept your DV are the same.

 

[ProfCC]

Better wait 30 years, it is much safer then that they will accept DA.

I was going to say 20, but certainly wait longer than 10. 30 years is the agreed upon safest number according to the experts. In my experience, I've never lost the vassal after 20 years, but you need to really be careful if Genoa is your real great enemy.

 

[EvilSanta]

What happens whenmy diploannex try fails in agceep?In vanilla i think it was only
relation drop but when I tried to diploannex Genoa some 200 years ago in my current game they suddenly wasnt my vassal anymore.Did they cancel because I tried to add them to my empire?Now that the 10 years is gone,I wanted to try what happens with failed try.I saved game just before attempting it and tried.And it was succesful!I got those 40 k troops from Corsica and CoT in Genoa but still dont know what happens with failed try

 

[Duke of Wellington]

No change from vanilla to agceep. Anytime you try to diploannex a nation there is always a chance that they may decline and cancel the vassalisation. Thats why many people say wait 30 (or 20) years, it has the most chance of succeeding and therefore the least risk of losing them as a vassal.

 

[unmerged(45766)]

The 30 years advice is because past 30 years, you don't get any additional bonus. If you deem your chances to be already good after 10 years (your economy is way higher, low BB, good DIP, big high-morale army, etc), go for it after 10 years. If not, wait a bit.

 

[curtis]

I say make nice with Genoa and diplo-annex them down the line.

 

[unmerged(7996)]

Good advice, I have used that tactic succesfully at other times when in a similar situation. Often with Rhodes as Ottomans, it simply means piling big armies of infantry into the island and killing them off with not only battle but attrition. Just make sure you attack near the end of the month giving yourself the least chance of losing before the month ends and of the battle goes long enough your troops may be there over 2 month endings as they fight then retreat. Basically though its gonna cost you lots of troops which hopefully you're able to afford.

The take the capital, retreat, and hope they resupply from Corsica strategy has worked for me several times too. Sometimes Genoa doesn't take the bait though and that is frustrating.

A couple of other suggestions:

1. If you don't have mountain provinces and you have a large Navy: Ally with Genoa and DoW someone with a strong Navy and lots of troops (i.e. Spain or the Ottomans). Build all cavalry, sit in your provinces, clear invaders from your territory when they land (runs up your victory % and allows separate peace), and wait for the inevitable. Eventually Genoa will either lose Corsica (and you can take it from the conquerer) or Genoa will lose her manpower on the island (and you can cancel the alliance, DoW them, and invade the empty island).

2. Wait until you have a leader, ally with Spain, England, or France, and then DoW Genoa. Be the first one to the capital and wait for your allies to break the army on Corsica. Then send in your leader to take over the siege.

 

[unmerged(3931)]

1. If you don't have mountain provinces and you have a large Navy: Ally with Genoa and DoW someone with a strong Navy and lots of troops (i.e. Spain or the Ottomans). Build all cavalry, sit in your provinces, clear invaders from your territory when they land (runs up your victory % and allows separate peace), and wait for the inevitable. Eventually Genoa will either lose Corsica (and you can take it from the conquerer) or Genoa will lose her manpower on the island (and you can cancel the alliance, DoW them, and invade the empty island).

Separate peace after you have made the DoW works only in the new 1.09 rules and only if Genoa is the alliance leader.

 

[Jomini]

Separate peace after you have made the DoW works only in the new 1.09 rules and only if Genoa is the alliance leader.

If you lead the alliance, get Genoa to the number 2 slot, dishonor the call, and then rejoin - you can easily drag Genoa into the war for some stab and gold; though I doubt this will be terribly cheaper than brute forcing Corsica.


Another drawn out tactic is to get Genoa into an alliance you lead at the number two spot, invite a pushover power with lots of valuable territory into the alliance, dishonor, and then seige the capital while racking up WS amongst the other allies. Colonizers make for good punching bags, unfortified territory is great for quick WS.

Normally though DV or storming the beaches is both quicker and cheaper.