Forming Roman Empire as an Islamic Nation

[TheReaper]

Hey, so I started playing as the Sultanate of Rum and managed to usurp the byzantine empire and turn it into my own little Khaganate. Since then I've pretty much recaptured all the de jure territory of the Byzantine Empire and noticed that my heirs are getting the "Born in the Purple" trait, so I was wondering if I could actually get the "Restore Roman Empire" decision as its not currently in my intrigue tab? Also, since I've never actually attempted forming the Roman Empire normally, are there any specific territories I need to conquer or do I just conquer ex-roman territories till it pops up?

 

[Comm Cody]

If you want to get the roman empire decision, you must be Greek and orthodox.

Have fun pulling that off.

 

[TheReaper]

Damn, I totally had a decision to turn Greek and said no to it too!

 

[Alyiakal]

I don't necessarily think that's true; I was able to reform the Roman Empire with a Catholic ruler. Not sure if it's been changed in the latest patch or not though.

 

[Lwantssugar]

I think it can be any of the Byzantine cultures so in theory an Armenian Basileous could restore it

 

[RomanFighter]

Hey, so I started playing as the Sultanate of Rum and managed to usurp the byzantine empire and turn it into my own little Khaganate. Since then I've pretty much recaptured all the de jure territory of the Byzantine Empire and noticed that my heirs are getting the "Born in the Purple" trait, so I was wondering if I could actually get the "Restore Roman Empire" decision as its not currently in my intrigue tab? Also, since I've never actually attempted forming the Roman Empire normally, are there any specific territories I need to conquer or do I just conquer ex-roman territories till it pops up?

if you do manage, post a screenshot!!

 

[Tijean]

There was a Turkish emperor who try to conquer rome. He wanted to force the pope to recognise him as the Roman Emperor or Cesar. The title issue to the Russian as the survivor of the orthodox faith. Tsar is a contraction of Cesar.

 

[Portal]

I'm Bulgarian, can I reform it?

 

[cybrxkhan]

You can always form it the normal way and then convert to Islam... you know, be the Constantine the Great of Islam or something.

 

[Tokie]

If you want to get the roman empire decision, you must be Greek and orthodox.

Have fun pulling that off.

You don't have to be orthodox. I usurped the ERE as catholic from Sicily and I can still create Roman Empire.

 

[Spartanlemur]

Way too far removed from the original Roman Empire. The Ottomans conquered plenty of Roman territory yet they weren't Romans. Only the Greek Orthodox Byzantines were literal remnants of Rome, and that is why, for example, Catholic Wales cannot form the Empire.

 

[khedas]

Way too far removed from the original Roman Empire. The Ottomans conquered plenty of Roman territory yet they weren't Romans. Only the Greek Orthodox Byzantines were literal remnants of Rome, and that is why, for example, Catholic Wales cannot form the Empire.

Actually, as soon as they conquered Constantinople, the Ottomans declared themselves the successors of the Eastern Empire. And soon afterwards, heirs of the *whole* Roman Empire, laying claim to the entirety of the territory that was part of the Empire of the Caesars (the Ottoman Sultan held the title 'Kaiser-i-Rum', which means 'Caesar of Rome'). Which is also why they kept the name 'Constantinople' right to the end - Istambul was the name given in 1923 by the Turkish nationalist Atatürk.

Their claims were not so easily dismissed. When the Ottomans conquered Otranto in Southern Italy in 1481, it was ostensibly to start the reconquest of the Western part of the Empire. And in the taverns of Italy, the talk of the time was that the Roman Empire was about to be reborn, but under a new religion.

So, in effect, the Ottomans were pretty much playing LoR. Restricting the rebirth of Rome to Orthodox Greeks is, oddly enough, ahistorical.

 

[Talq]

Way too far removed from the original Roman Empire. The Ottomans conquered plenty of Roman territory yet they weren't Romans. Only the Greek Orthodox Byzantines were literal remnants of Rome, and that is why, for example, Catholic Wales cannot form the Empire.

Pffft. He has the title, why can't he get all the historical baggage?

As per other posters, Ottomans claimed the title of Emperor post the fall of Constantinople, but it wasn't their primary title. And unsurprisingly the rest of Europe didn't regard their territorial claims with much sympathy (of course they didn't as a whole regard the Byzantine's territorial claims with as much sympathy as the game gives them either, but that's by the by).

 

[unmerged(424234)]

I think it would be very rude to all christian people to let islamic ruler form the roman empire.

 

[ziamatt]

Way too far removed from the original Roman Empire. The Ottomans conquered plenty of Roman territory yet they weren't Romans. Only the Greek Orthodox Byzantines were literal remnants of Rome, and that is why, for example, Catholic Wales cannot form the Empire.

The HRE was even more removed from the original Roman Empire than the Ottomans, but that didn't stop all of Catholicism from recognizing them as the heir to the Roman Empire.
For the record, I think Byzantine and the HRE should both have an option to reform the Roman Empire regardless of culture and religion.

 

[nyah]

I think it would be very rude to all christian people to let islamic ruler form the roman empire.

Why? It's just a game.

 

[unmerged(424234)]

Why? It's just a game.

They're not using a proper nazi flag in a game about WW2. Why? Isn't it just a game?

 

[ziamatt]

They're not using a proper nazi flag in a game about WW2. Why? Isn't it just a game?

How is that relevant? At all?

 

[Tapscott]

I think it would be very rude to all christian people to let islamic ruler form the roman empire.

The hell? How is forming the Roman Empire as a muslim in any way offensive?

 

[vitek69]

They're not using a proper nazi flag in a game about WW2. Why? Isn't it just a game?

*facepalm* Because it's illegal to use/display Nazi symbols in most of European countries.