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Centralistic Royalistic Party of Eutopia (CRE)

Centralistic Royalistic Party of Eutopia (CRE)

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History
The CRE was founded after the two parties The Centralistic Monarchistic Party of Justice (CMJ) and the Royalistic Party of Eutopia emerged.

Values and Ideas
Concerning the way of Ruling Eutopia
Eutopia should be ruled by a King/Queen. The King should be the HoS but not the HoG. The King should have a permanent place in the parliament. The King should appoint the spokesperson of the parliamentary who will give the biggest party or coalition the mission to setup a government. The King will represent Eutopia when foreign Hos/HoG visit Eutopia and also make visits in other countries. The King is highest commander of the army/navy/aircraft. The King may dissmis the parliament and call for new elections. The King may not be member of any party and should not be able to participate in the parliamentary elections.

Concerning the Economy
We believe that all people needs to be more equal. We believe in relativy high taxes, so that the ones in the lowest part don't have to suffer so that the ones high up can get it even better. Although we believe that an individual has to have the chance to climb high and by hard work get a richer lifestyle than others.

Concerning the Healthcare
The healthcare should be public and free. A maximum distance between the hospitals will be 100 km, so that it will be avaliable for everyone.

Concerning the School and other Childquestions
Everyone has the right and also the duty to go to school. English will have to be read by everyone and if they so wish the languages of French and Spanish. We are for Abortion but strongly against Homosexual adoptions because of the fact that we sees to the good for the child who we believe has the right to a mother and a father.

Concerning the Foreign affairs
We believe that Eutopia has to have a strong relationship to Europe, America and other continents. But we also believe in neutrality and that we should stay out of organisations such as EU and NATO, atleast for now. Membership in UN is ofcourse totally accepted.

Concerning the Environment
We believe that something has to be done to the Enviroment disasters that is going on. The global heating and the death of animal spieces has to stop, and this can only be solved by global co-operation.

Concerning the Crimes and Punishments
It is with great concern we see the decreesing acts of crime. We believe in heavy punishments and strongly want the daeth penalty to stay. But in now way can we accept Eutopia to become a state filled with policemen, which would be just as bad as one filled with criminals.

Concerning the Immigration
The heavy Immigration inot Eutopia has to be stopped, we need to deal with our own problems before we can handle others. People that have works that we are in lack of will immediately be granted to come to Eutopia, and after some time they will be viewed as Citizens.

Concerning the Role of the State
To make everything avaliable to everyone the state will run things as the Schools, the Hospitals, the Traincompany, etc. Although the price needs to be kept at the lowest level possible. In other areas is ofcourse competition free as the state after is far from the most efficient owner and that competition is needed for high service and to make custemers more comfortable.

Hot questions at the Moment
The Iraq issue
We do believe that the US at the moment don't have any reason for attacking Iraq. We believe that no one has the right to replace a leader of a country if they not have a very good reason, which the US, in our meaning, don't.

The Freeway Issue of Eutopia
We believe that the freeway that is discussed at the moment is a good project, needed by the Eutopians. Although we are convinced that the road has to be owned by the state, preventing a fiasko to happen. We think that tolls can be a way of finansing the freeways, but not if they are too high.

Questions that we will work for if we gets into the Parlament

Monarchy: We will work for restoring the Monarchy of Eutopia.

Parliament: We will work for more people in the parliament.

EU & Nato: We will work against memberships in EU and Nato.

Members

Count Kent von Ahseed-Lentigner (Kent I Wallmi) [X]
Baron Johan Banér (J Banér) [X]
Daniel Gathenhielm (Gathenhielm) [X]
Don Jaron de Marko de Mallorca, neopatria y azores (Jaron) [X]
Bob le Royaliste Vangeel de Lichtaart (Royalist)[X]
Edward Bogle (Legal Counsel) [X]

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1 Concerning the way of Ruling Eutopia
We believe in the King as the protector of the lands. We believe that a Council should be set up existing of three to fourhundered Men or Women. These will be from different Parties and the way the Council is split between them will be deicded in a vote of the people. The Party getting the most votes (or the parties if they wish to rule together), will make a group existing of approximatly twenty people that will be the ruling power of Eutopia. The King will have a parmantent plcae in the Council and in the Ruling group.

2 Concerning the Military
For a long time Eutopia has never been threatend by war. Its place between America and Europe is ideal. From no way are we threatend by war which means that we can put our money in other pockets than in the militaristic ones. Although the defense should not be abondend. We need to keep our neutrality and not be depended on other countries armies.

3 Concerning the Economy
We believe that all people needs to be more equal. We believe in relativy high taxes, so that the ones in the lowest part don't have to suffer so that the ones high up can get it even better. Although we believe that an individual has to have the chance to climb high and by hard work get a richer lifestyle than others.

4 Concerning the Healthcare
The healthcare should be public and free. A maximum distance between the hospitals will be 100 km, so that it will be avaliable for everyone.

5 Concerning the School and other Childquestions
Everyone has the right and also the duty to go to school. English will have to be read by everyone and if they so wish the languages of French and Spanish. We are for Abortion but strongly against Homosexual adoptions because of the fact that we sees to the good for the child who we believe has the right to a mother and a father.

6 Concerning the Foreign affairs
We believe that Eutopia has to have a strong relationship to Europe, America and other continents. But we also believe in neutrality and that we should stay out of organisations such as EU and NATO, atleast for now. Membership in UN is ofcourse totally accepted.

7 Concerning the Environment
We believe that something has to be done to the Enviroment disasters that is going on. The global heating and the death of animal spieces has to stop, and this can only be solved by global co-operation.

8 Concerning the Crimes and Punishments
It is with great concern we see the decreesing acts of crime. We believe in heavy punishments and strongly want the daeth penalty to stay. But in now way can we accept Eutopia to become a state filled with policemen, which would be just as bad as one filled with criminals.

9 Concerning the Immigration
The heavy Immigration inot Eutopia has to be stopped, we need to deal with our own problems before we can handle others. People that have works that we are in lack of will immediately be granted to come to Eutopia, and after some time they will be viewed as Citizens.

10 Concerning the Role of the State
To make everything avaliable to everyone the state will run things as the Schools, the Hospitals, the Traincompany, etc. Although the price needs to be kept at the lowest level possible.
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These are the old standings of the CMJ, and as we agreed in much I believe that we could take these. Although I understand that there might be a few things that you would like to change, so, now let us discuss this :)

(number 2 will be dropped as we have some disagreements in this question, so you don't have to bother talking about that one, if you not really want ofcourse.) :)

Thank you,

Kent
 

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Well your idea of council and that stuff is interesting but until we have retored the monarchy I think we should keep the current parliamentary system and have the as hoS.


Maybe it should be as follows:

Eutopia should be ruled by a King/Queen. The King should be the HoS but not the HoG. The King should have a permanent place in the parliament. The King should appoint the spokesperson of the parliamentary who will give the biggest party or coalition the mission to setup a government. The King will represent Eutopia when foreign Hos/HoG visit Eutopia and also make visits in other countries. The King is highest commander of the army/navy/aircraft. The King may dissmis the parliament and call for new elections. The King may not be member of any party and should not be able to participate in the parliamentary elections.

Well that is what i think ;)

Yeah we drop the military problems for a while. In the other issuse I agree.
 

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Originally posted by J. Banér
1.

Well your idea of council and that stuff is interesting but until we have retored the monarchy I think we should keep the current parliamentary system and have the as hoS.


Maybe it should be as follows:

Eutopia should be ruled by a King/Queen. The King should be the HoS but not the HoG. The King should have a permanent place in the parliament. The King should appoint the spokesperson of the parliamentary who will give the biggest party or coalition the mission to setup a government. The King will represent Eutopia when foreign Hos/HoG visit Eutopia and also make visits in other countries. The King is highest commander of the army/navy/aircraft. The King may dissmis the parliament and call for new elections. The King may not be member of any party and should not be able to participate in the parliamentary elections.

Well that is what i think ;)

Yeah we drop the military problems for a while. In the other issuse I agree.

I like that, idea. :) I understand that my description above can be a bit, messy.
 

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Re: APPLICATION

Originally posted by Legal Counsel
Gentlemen:

Enclosed please find my application for membership as well as my check for membership dues. I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,
Edward Bogle, Esq.

Dear Edward :) We happily welcome you to our community.

Nice to see that the royalists are stepping forward. ;)

Welcome :D
 

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I would like to suggest that our party policy statement clarify two matters:
(1) That we support a modern "welfare state", with social services, a social "safety net" for all people; BUT
(2) That we do not support a socialistic state ownership of all major industries, etc. (with the exception of those that so impact the health and welfare of the nation that they must be state-owned, like the railroads, etc.).
Our party, as I see it, is a LIBERAL party, but not a SOCIALIST party.
 

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Originally posted by Legal Counsel
I would like to suggest that our party policy statement clarify two matters:
(1) That we support a modern "welfare state", with social services, a social "safety net" for all people; BUT
(2) That we do not support a socialistic state ownership of all major industries, etc. (with the exception of those that so impact the health and welfare of the nation that they must be state-owned, like the railroads, etc.).
Our party, as I see it, is a LIBERAL party, but not a SOCIALIST party.

1. I agree
2. I not support either a Liberal or Socialistic state. I think the state should own Healtcare,railroad etc. AND a some other companies to make money. I mean the state should also be allowed to own companies to earn extra money. I don't think we should say that we are in some special side in the political scale just that we are royalists and we stands for our program.

And Welcome, its good to have you in ;)
 

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Originally posted by J. Banér
1. I agree
2. I not support either a Liberal or Socialistic state. I think the state should own Healtcare,railroad etc. AND a some other companies to make money. I mean the state should also be allowed to own companies to earn extra money. I don't think we should say that we are in some special side in the political scale just that we are royalists and we stands for our program.

I don't mean to suggest that the state should not be vested with the authority or ability to run businesses (clearly, it has that ability since we allow it to own the railroads, etc). Some industries need to be state owned, and sometimes it may be necessary to take limited or temporary control (e.g. assuming control of businesses for a time to prevent economic collapse, avert labor disputes, etc). I do not believe that the state is the best businessman, nor do I believe industry will benefit from one more bureaucracy laid on top of it. If the goal is to bring in revenue, it is better to just levy a heavier tax on business. If the goal is to ensure businesses behave in a responsible way, then heavy regulation should be our tool.


Originally posted by J. Banér

And Welcome, its good to have you in ;)

Thank you!:)
 

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Originally posted by Legal Counsel
I would like to suggest that our party policy statement clarify two matters:
(1) That we support a modern "welfare state", with social services, a social "safety net" for all people; BUT
(2) That we do not support a socialistic state ownership of all major industries, etc. (with the exception of those that so impact the health and welfare of the nation that they must be state-owned, like the railroads, etc.).
Our party, as I see it, is a LIBERAL party, but not a SOCIALIST party.

(1) I totally agree with you on that, and if that isn't clarified in the policy above I will immediately change that.

(2) I believe that the things that ought to be owned by the state is just thinks as hospitals, caring of the elder, schools, etc. Things that needs to be free. Concerning things like railroads, (highways as recently has been discussed to be built privately), and alot of other things that I canät come to think about at the moment, I also believe has to be owned by the state. Not because we need money, I actually believe we should earn almost zero in that companies, but anyway, why the state need to own these is to keep them open. To prevent bankruptcy and too high costs.

But yes, in other areas competing is neccessary. As you say is the state many times far from the most efficient buissnessowner.

Edit: btw, as I see it we are not a socialist party, nor a liberal one. I would put ou somewhere there between, if I had to. But as Baron Banér would I rather not put us on that scale. I believe that that could scare members that agrees woth our policy away. Because there is a reason for us calling ourselves Centralistic, we are in the center of everthing. We have taken some things here and some there. we are a mix ;)

/Count Kent von Ahseed-Lentigner
 
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