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Hey guys, I just started a game playing as England, and I was wondering if historical events such as Union of the Crowns in 1603 and Acts of Union in 1707 actually happen in the game. (These are the events that fused Scotland and England together into one country.) If so, are there any prerequisites, or do they just pop up as an event? Would religion be an issue?

Oh, and does the 1801 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland ever happen? Thanks.
 

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The Acts of Union (1707) does occur in the game but it usually happens before 1707. It is an event that can occur between 1700 and the end of the game, 1820. FYI it doesn't create a "new" country. It just gives England territorial claims on Scotland and the Ulster province, and it gives England the original Union Jack (without the extra St. Patrick's Cross) for it's new flag and shield.

NOTE: I modded the Acts of Union event to give England gaelic culture and I removed the culture changes from occurring in Scotland. I just thought that would be more realistic. You might do it as well.

IIRC the Irish act of Union doesn't occur, but there is something called a Welsh act of union that changes the Wales province to anglosaxon culture.

IIRC there is an event for the Union of the Crowns plus tons more!!! I love playing as England!
 
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Dark Scipio said:
Doesn`t AGCEEP features gealic culture for the united kingdom, too?
Maybe but that only applies if you use AGCEEP. ;)
 
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Dark Scipio said:
Doesn`t AGCEEP features gealic culture for the united kingdom, too?

Seems doubtful, as England/GB doesn't really deserve Gaelic culture at any point in the EU2 period (you might argue for it after union with Ireland in 1800, but I wouldn't give it even then). Gaelic culture is a licence to convert Ireland wholesale to Protestantism, which would be ahistorical.
 

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No Gaelic culture for England (Great Britain/United Kingdom) in AGCEEP.

Wales starts with Gaelic culture but will turn to Anglosaxon with Welsh Act of Union, Scottish provinces (but not Highlands) too with the Act of Union. Irish provinces will never change.
 

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Incompetent said:
Seems doubtful, as England/GB doesn't really deserve Gaelic culture at any point in the EU2 period (you might argue for it after union with Ireland in 1800, but I wouldn't give it even then). Gaelic culture is a licence to convert Ireland wholesale to Protestantism, which would be ahistorical.
I think England does deserve gaelic culture because they were "united" with Scotland. I disagree with changing the southern provinces in Scotland to anglosaxon so I modded that out. In my events there are no culture changes (except for Wales) and I usually convert Ireland to Protestant then mod the save file to make them Reformed. That way all of the Gaelics in my country are reformed. (Brittany region too)

YodaMaster said:
Irish provinces will never change.
I thought the Cromwell event changed Ulster to anglosaxon + reformed. But you are referring to AGCEEP?
 
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Just looking at English history, I don't think they deserve gaelic culture.
 

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In terms of the game, England has French culture at the beginning of the game. Typically England loses this after "losing" the 100 years war. If England has French culture why not Gaelic culture upon uniting with Scotland? Remember in my games I don't change the Scottish provinces to Anglosaxon.
 

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Raze said:
I think England does deserve gaelic culture because they were "united" with Scotland. I disagree with changing the southern provinces in Scotland to anglosaxon so I modded that out. In my events there are no culture changes (except for Wales) and I usually convert Ireland to Protestant then mod the save file to make them Reformed. That way all of the Gaelics in my country are reformed. (Brittany region too)
Yes problem with Gaelic culture is for Brittany. England can't rule Brittany without any problem. We have to make some choices/abstractions because of gameplay and EU2 engine.
Ireland reformed? They are catholic.

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I thought the Cromwell event changed Ulster to anglosaxon + reformed. But you are referring to AGCEEP?
I have to check for AGCEEP but possible for vanilla.

And England doesn't have French culture in AGCEEP. Gain of the culture is possible but only with total victory. England doesn't desserve "normal" manpower in French provinces during HYW.
 

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I feel that is is of matter of the respect that the Monarch showed to different cultures. The Ottomans should have Greek as their culture, as they respected the Greek culture (usally), the same being with Venice. England showed respect to the French language, laws and customs, while they didn't to Welsh, Scottish or Irish culture. These three nations were ruled to various levels as colonies, depending on the strength of the local noblity and other pressures on the English crown at the time. The most common way England operated in these three nations was to create, bribe or coerce the local nobles into becoming English cultrally (Duke Of Wellington an exellent example)

On my own mod of the Grand Campaign, I have England lose it's core in Wales (to be regained in the Welsh at of Union), while England does have 3 cores in France (representing the Duchies of Aquitaine & Normandy) which England will lose if they lose the core concerned. If England loses both titiles, she loses French as a culture. Ulster will become a English core if a) Eire decides to interfere in the English Civil War and b) The Royalists lose the Civil War. The rest of Eire can become English cores if England rules it all by 1800 (Irish Act Of Union) although it never gains galeic as a culture. I beleve that this is the tidiest way to be histoicaly accurate within the limits of the EU game engine.
 

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YodaMaster said:
Yes problem with Gaelic culture is for Brittany. England can't rule Brittany without any problem. We have to make some choices/abstractions because of gameplay and EU2 engine.
Ireland reformed? They are catholic.

I have to check for AGCEEP but possible for vanilla.

And England doesn't have French culture in AGCEEP. Gain of the culture is possible but only with total victory. England doesn't desserve "normal" manpower in French provinces during HYW.
#1 I don't understand. Do you mean Brittany shouldn't be easy for England to rule? If so I agree.

#2 Yes Ireland is Catholic, but I like them to be reformed like in Scotland so I "convert" them to Protestant since that is what I am, and in a way, I haven't technically cheated by modding the save file to make them Reformed.

#3 Vanilla EU2 does change Ulster to Anglosaxon + Reformed through a Cromwell event. But I thought that was cheap so I changed it.
 

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Giving Gaelic culture to England would also make Brittany a very easy place to hold, besides Ireland and Scotland, it gives extra power to an already easy and powerful country to play as.
 

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I changed my mind today about the Gaelic culture thing. I thought about it and I am guessing that historically, Scottish people have been "Anglicized" and therefore (in the game) they could be considered Anglosaxon in terms of culture. I just re-modded my game so that the culture changes take place in Scotland except for the highlands which happens with a later event. Now I play England without Gaelic culture. You guys were right. It's better this way.
 

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Iirc, there's a choice of PM's in AGCEEP, which can result in cultural conversion of Irish provinces. Late game, and the conversion-friendly PM impairs your hawkish behaviour around the time of Nappy.

EDIT: Alternative PM is Fox (instead of Pitt the Younger), choice is in 1790. Stab hits, desertions if you go after France in later years. Conversion of Ireland ~1800.
 
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YodaMaster said:
And England doesn't have French culture in AGCEEP. Gain of the culture is possible but only with total victory. England doesn't desserve "normal" manpower in French provinces during HYW.
I've read up on the event, how can England achieve total victory when they (dauphine) can't control their own capital? Does it mean that the event will trigger if England controls those provinces in wartime, but not actually owning them?
 

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Yes, Dauphiné must exist and at war against England or Burgundy but fully defeated (all key provinces not controlled) since Collapse of Kingdom of Bourges is the only event to trigger the English final victory.

Some other conditions are required (events fired and/or not fired before).