Formable Nation: Turkey

[SignedName]

Formable nation at Admin Tech 20 (similar to Egypt). Requirements would be Turkish culture, holding key cores (Ankara, Adana, some other cores), and if Ottomans, can't own Constantinople. Would give a claim on all Anatolian provinces.

 

[Celtic Emporer]

I do not like all states-dynasty. In Europe, the Habsburg Empire were the Kingdom of Spain, Austria, Czech and etc. but not "Habsburgia".

OE (and Ming and etc.) need more flexible name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

The difference is that the Ottomans were a states-dynasty... Austria, Spain, Czech and etc.... Were closer to nationstates(while not all being complete nation states) than dynasty states...

 

[Grand Historian]

This is something that already had a discussion about. The answer was that Turkey was way out of the timeline and also that Turkey had been more like a punishment in a peace deal. (for ottoman empire)

Yes, I was the one who proposed it: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/an-idea-about-the-turkish-beyliks.864438/

 

[Grand Historian]

I do not like all states-dynasty. In Europe, the Habsburg Empire were the Kingdom of Spain, Austria, Czech and etc. but not "Habsburgia".

OE (and Ming and etc.) need more flexible name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

The problem is that, traditionally, most states outside Europe have always been referred to by their leading dynasties, very much because they were defined by them.

 

[AndrejK]

I would say the name Turkey should be used in two events :

1. If another country whose primary culture is Turkish (Say Candar, Karaman or someting similar) gets control of lets say Konya Karaman Ankora and Kocaeli then they should get a decision Form Turkish Nation (similar if you play as Novgorod and you defeat Muscovy or vice versa you get a decision Form Russian Nation)
2. If Ottomans cease to exist and Turkish Separatists have a successful revolt and create a new country then the country should get to be known as Turkey. Also if we get as has been mentioned above Rev. Ottomans, or Ottomans become republic or something like this they should become Turkey.

 

[Anatur]

The concept of "turkish" people was already there,its just that the area was devided between different sultans etc,and the ottomans happened to be the strongest.

I say if arabia can be a thing then so can turkey.

 

[Mattius]

I see it being as more of a possible name for if they go revolutionary...cuz thats how Turkey came to be.... instead of "Revolutionary Ottomans," they shoud become "Turkey."

Maybe Revolutionary Turkey

 

[moscal]

Revolutionary Turkey... Viva la Revolution! Viva Fidel! Viva Cuba libre!