Formable Nation Guessing Thread

[J_Master]

Could a more historically reasonable tag be introduced with this mechanic? Perhaps, although I'd expect actual history (even ancient history, c.f. Byzantium) to take precedence.

We already have the Emu Empire for that

 

[Ryousan2k]

An issue I can see is that since formables will give cores, it's always going to be immensely beneficial to take the decision. Thus, the conditions either have to be obscure so they won't come up in a normal playthrough or the nation has to be fairly plausable. That doesn't leave many options outside of the ones already mentioned.

I beg to differ: Some formable nations will already fairly difficult to accomplish even if you know the appropiate triggers. For example , forming the HRE as anyone that is not Germany is already a very difficult task, even if you are aware of what you need. And in my opinion, some nations just need this: This the only way in which South AMeirca can become a force be recon with and roughly the same can be said about Scandinavia

Another thing that Im wondering is that some splinter nation (such as say, West/East Germany) can reform into its bigger counterpart and inherit its Focus Tree. We know this is the case for CHinese Warlords, but can it be for some toher nations aswell?

 

[jpapple]

Maybe UK for Ireland and the nations of the Commonwealth

Maybe we should wait till they add Scotland, Wales and England as releasable countries?

 

[jpapple]

No worries, water under the bridge.

For clarity, my objection is not to the concept of a union of Australia and New Zealand (which is beyond the scope of this thread) but to it being called specifically "The Australasian Confederation". Could a more historically reasonable tag be introduced with this mechanic? Perhaps, although I'd expect actual history (even ancient history, c.f. Byzantium) to take precedence.

The Federation of Oceania?

 

[Vharzul]

Hmm I could imagen that the Holy Roman Empire might be a Formable Nation lol.. seeing the Kalamar Union is in and Byzantium too.

But also in Terms of Germany another Alternative is Germania (was a plausable outcome) that it could be renamed into this considering that plans did exsist for a new Capital to be named as such so.. so Berlin was taken into consideration to be renamed as such too ^^

 

[jpapple]

A greater Germany together with Austria seems plausible... But only if they're non-aligned though because the greater Germany was mostly a plan proposed by the nobility. Hitler wanted it aswell but he didn't see it like a seperase entity, but more like another part of the SAME Germany. Whereas greater Germany was a union state between all the different kingdoms and duchy's in the Deutscher Bund. Also add Luxembourg and Limburg as possible cores for the decision, they were drawn into the plan aswell because they were in the Bund.

 

[Vharzul]

Yea a Greater German Empire (Groß Deutsche Reich) was a posability at the time of the Unification of Germany in 1871, it was dismised by Bismarck at that time that had other plans then.. but it was on the table to have Austria also join in on the Unification before it was dismised due to Political Agenda's.

 

[jpapple]

Yea a Greater German Empire (Groß Deutsche Reich) was a posability at the time of the Unification of Germany in 1871, it was dismised by Bismarck at that time that had other plans then.. but it was on the table to have Austria also join in on the Unification before it was dismised due to Political Agenda's.

It was also planned after the 1st world war when Austria-Hungary got disbanded. The German republic of Austria got created to unify Austria and the Sudetenland with Germany, but the Triple Entente blocked it and forced Austria to give the Sudetenland to Czechoslovakia and instate a new Austrian Republic

 

[Temudhun Khan]

Maybe we should wait till they add Scotland, Wales and England as releasable countries?

I would like it we got more releasable countries, but we may need to have better peace negotiations ai first because it currently do weird shit with releasable.

 

[Crimson Scourge]

Balkans. Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungry maybe turkey and Serbia, Croatia, and Montenegro
Baltic Union. (Not Norse but all the Baltic sea) For Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. Maybe Poland, Germany and the Soviet Union?
Iberian Union. Portugal and Spain
Europe. all European Countries and maybe turkey and the soviet union
Southeast Asia. Thailand, British Malaysia (upon becoming free), Dutch East indies (upon freedom), and for released nations Cambodia, Vietnam, And Laos. (They could add bengidash and Burma, maybe Papua)

 

[jpapple]

Benelux. Luxemburg, Netherlands, and Belgium

They've already said you can form the United Netherlands

 

[Tarnoyan Warrior]

How about A central American confederation? Or a Baltic confederation of some sort, maybe an indochinan confederation

 

[jpapple]

Or a Baltic confederation

An united baltic state is already confirmed to be formable

 

[Jan1000]

Talking about formable Nations, i really would love to see a event or choice to unite the british african-asian commonwealth, with other words the RAJ, South africa,Australia,malaysa, new zealand (and perhaps the british land and isles in africa and asia if they allow it). It could trigger/be available if the comintern or axis takes London. I mean we have seen the possibility of the franco-british union after the shock of the sudden fall of france. Which failed because france would rather be a german puppet than a british dominion. But i doubt colonies would have that some reaction to such a offer. And if the germans (or soviets) would march through the streets of London, sh** would really be on fire.
Also such a nation would really be interesting.
With India's manpower, Malaysa's resources and australian-new zealandian dockyards it would actualy have the strength to do something.
Also possible fronts against Japan and its siamese puppet and pacific holdings aswell as the possibility of Africa to march north and eventually try to liberate Greece or strike Spain or Italy through the mediterranean would really give this new nation a high amount of playability.
While also being balanced due to its lack of factorys and late Forming

 

[Crimson Scourge]

Talking about formable Nations, i really would love to see a event or choice to unite the british african-asian commonwealth, with other words the RAJ, South africa,Australia,malaysa, new zealand (and perhaps the british land and isles in africa and asia if they allow it). It could trigger/be available if the comintern or axis takes London. I mean we have seen the possibility of the franco-british union after the shock of the sudden fall of france. Which failed because france would rather be a german puppet than a british dominion. But i doubt colonies would have that some reaction to such a offer. And if the germans (or soviets) would march through the streets of London, sh** would really be on fire.
Also such a nation would really be interesting.
With India's manpower, Malaysa's resources and australian-new zealandian dockyards it would actualy have the strength to do something.
Also possible fronts against Japan and its siamese puppet and pacific holdings aswell as the possibility of Africa to march north and eventually try to liberate Greece or strike Spain or Italy through the mediterranean would really give this new nation a high amount of playability.
While also being balanced due to its lack of factorys and late Forming

There is no Franco-British Union. But i would love an union of all British Colonies it would be a super power, as you said Indian's Manpower, Malaysia's Resources and the Oceanic Dockyards,

 

[Dryhad]

Not sure if this was already known or not but a formation decision for Great Zimbabwe was visible on Da9l's stream of the Three Day War.

 

[Xerberous]

Yea a Greater German Empire (Groß Deutsche Reich) was a posability at the time of the Unification of Germany in 1871, it was dismised by Bismarck at that time that had other plans then.. but it was on the table to have Austria also join in on the Unification before it was dismised due to Political Agenda's.

Since Germany in its various incarnations is by far the most played nation in HoI4 I'm rather sure that we can expect something in this direction. I see two options here: The historically plausible (Germany in the borders of 1914 + the Austrian Part of the KuK-Monarchy also in the borders of 1914 + perhaps some very minor stuff around) or the “real HRE” version e.g. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiliges_Römisches_Reich#/media/File:Mitteleuropa_zur_Zeit_der_Staufer.svg – in the latter case you really got a lot to conquer.

I personally would clearly prefer the historically plausible version. This is the kind of gameplay I like: Not the 457-repetition of Barbarossa but a plausible scenario which might have taken place if the right/wrong personas got a lethal heart attack 30 years before their historical death.