Formable Nation Guessing Thread

[Ryousan2k]

With the reveal of Formable Nations in Waking the Tiger which do you think are some possible candidates?

 

[Temudhun Khan]

Iberia for Spain and Portugal
Poland-Lithuania for Poland (and maybe Lithuania)
Great Moravia for Czechoslovakia
Celtic Union for Ireland
Ottoman Empire for Turkey
Persian Empire for Iran
Arabia for all Arabic countries (Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen, Oman and the releasable Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Palestine)
Mughal Empire for the releasable Pakistan
Indochina for the releasable Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, and maybe Thailand
Australasia for Australia and New Zealand
United Provinces of Central America for Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and maybe Panama
Caraibes for Cuba, Haiti and Dominican Republic
La Plata for Argentina, Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay

I don't think they will all make it (at least not all at once) but there will certainly be a few of them.

 

[EltharionDrax]

Oceania
Eurasia
Eastasia

First I was going to say I was joking, but...

 

[petertel123]

Transcaucasia

 

[Temudhun Khan]

We also need reformable countries like in EU4, by the way. We will already have China, but I also think we could get Yugoslavia reformable for Serbia, Croatia and Montenegro, USSR/Russia for Ukraine and Belarus and Peru for Bolivia. Maybe UK for Ireland and the nations of the Commonwealth and Finland for Estonia, too. There are many others with more releasable nations (same for formables, actually) but it would take hours if not days to list them all.

 

[him_15]

Mongol Empire

 

[Red_warning]

Mexican empire for Mexico
Roman empire for Italy
The Commonwealth for Poland and Lithuania
United Provinces for Netherlands and Belgium

 

[Temudhun Khan]

Mexican empire for Mexico
Roman empire for Italy
The Commonwealth for Poland and Lithuania
United Provinces for Netherlands and Belgium

The Roman Empire is already confirmed, and the Dev Diary mentioned "United Netherlands".

 

[Louella]

I am wondering if some more of the African countries would be formable, and the other ones fleshed out a bit more.

 

[gorkem91]

Carthage. So they can be destroyed

 

[MagnusDux]

North American Union fo USA and Canada

 

[Louella]

Carthage. So they can be destroyed

The Fourth Punic War !


Could even be a couple of achievements related to that.
"Carthago Delenda Est" being an obvious one, possibly involving the neo-Roman Empire using a nuclear weapon

 

[Temudhun Khan]

Carthage. So they can be destroyed

We need a Tunisian tag first. And if we get one, we should also get Morocco, Algeria and a formable Maghreb.

Edit: Didn't think about it, by the way, but we already have a Libyan tag, which means we could get a formable Maghreb. Congo and Abyssinian Empires may also work, but for other African formables, I think we need more tags and ideally more puppet states.

 

[Louella]

Didn't think about it, by the way, but we already have a Libyan tag, which means we could get a formable Maghreb. Congo and Abyssinian Empires may also work, but for other African formables, I think we need more tags and ideally more puppet states.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Looking at the map though, I'm not sure that many of the African countries that came into existence after WW2 can be formed.

Rwanda & Burundi look like they exist as provinces on the map, so creating them as separate states should be fairly straightforward, Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia appear fairly normal on the map, as states with normal borders.
Senegal and Madagascar though, are the only other two countries that look like they have modern-day borders for the French-controlled African territories. The provincial borders in "French West Africa" don't seem to match modern-day borders, for example.
Guinea-Bissau looks possible too.
For the British African territories, Rhodesia encompasses all of what is now Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi, and the provincial borders of what is now Malawi aren't right in the north. Uganda would have to give up a province to Tanzania, and Egypt's Western Desert state has 3 provinces that they'd need to give to Sudan.

So there's a lot of not just state borders, but also provincial borders, that would need to be altered, and that's a bit more work.

 

[Telenil]

Maybe Germania? IIRC the nazis had some sort of dream where their country would be called that once they had conquered Europe and White Russia.

 

[Temudhun Khan]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Looking at the map though, I'm not sure that many of the African countries that came into existence after WW2 can be formed.

Rwanda & Burundi look like they exist as provinces on the map, so creating them as separate states should be fairly straightforward, Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia appear fairly normal on the map, as states with normal borders.
Senegal and Madagascar though, are the only other two countries that look like they have modern-day borders for the French-controlled African territories. The provincial borders in "French West Africa" don't seem to match modern-day borders, for example.
Guinea-Bissau looks possible too.
For the British African territories, Rhodesia encompasses all of what is now Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi, and the provincial borders of what is now Malawi aren't right in the north. Uganda would have to give up a province to Tanzania, and Egypt's Western Desert state has 3 provinces that they'd need to give to Sudan.

So there's a lot of not just state borders, but also provincial borders, that would need to be altered, and that's a bit more work.

If I remember correctly, Rwanda and Burundi are currently part of a congolese province.
Regarding French colonies, yeah, it's a mess. The border between French West and Equatorial Africa isn't even properly included in the map, the Saharian parts of Chad and Niger being merged together. Cote d'Ivoire, Togo, Benin, Burkina Faso and south Mali are merged together, while the Saharian Mali is merged with Mauritania. And Equatorial Africa is a mess.
However, without touching the map, we could also get tags for Gambia, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea, Namibia, Uganda, Somalia, Somaliland, Djibouti and Eritrea, not counting the tiny island nations. But the most important in my opinion should be Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Spanish Morocco/Rif.

 

[Louella]

If I remember correctly, Rwanda and Burundi are currently part of a congolese province.

Yeah, that's what I mean. There's two little provinces, in the right place, that look roughly the right shape. So, I think, in theory, it'd be relatively straightforward to take those two provinces and make states with them.

But the shapes of the provinces for lots of other countries, don't look right. And afaik, editing province shape is a lot more complicated a procedure.

There's also the question of the practicality of things though, iirc, Botswana as an example, it's hard to raise even 1 division of any size, let alone provide replacements for casualties.

 

[iBlessTheRains]

Maybe Germania? IIRC the nazis had some sort of dream where their country would be called that once they had conquered Europe and White Russia.

Weren't they just gonna name their capital Germania? That could also very well be a decision for when you win the war as Germany

 

[AjayAlcos]

United Democratic People's Federative Republic of Greater Transsupermegaholyawesomia.

 

[Marcion]

I think we've gotten far enough off the rails of history at this point that a restored Russian Empire led by zombie Rasputin isn't outside the realm of possibility.