I forced the release of Holland and Brabant which I'll pick up later when I form the HRE. It would have been nice to grab some of these high value provinces with free cores.
Forcing the Burgundian Inheritance... what a pain
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That's not how MTTH works. It's just a probability, it doesn't keep track of how much time has actually passed.
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Playing as France I usually force Burgundy to release vassals in my first war against them if I have warscore leftover after taking a couple of provinces. The inheritance is a mixed blessing if it results in super-Austria on your doorstep. If it doesn't fire then oh well, you're France, you have plenty of ways to gain territory. If it does fire while you're at war with them, you can peace out of the war before accepting the popup. You can usually prevent Austria getting much of anything, and having two or three of their provinces on your doorstep to condottieri every time Austria gets into a war (often) is quite handy.
Then you seriously don´t know how probability work, and didn´t really get what I was actually writing ;-) having a MTTH at 500 months, means the most probable time to get it is 500 months... it can be more, it can be less... But 500 months is the average... Do you understand it now?
MTTH gives the mean of the exponential probability distribution; the probability each month is a constant and completely independent of the amount of time that has already passed. If the event hasn't happened yet, the expected time remaining will always be equal to the MTTH. It functions like radio-active decay: the MTTH is mathematically equivalent to a half-life.
Hello there, since I have a question regarding the same subject, I bumped this topic.
I am trying to get the full inheritance as France. For now, having enough support from HRE electors is not an issue. Having the Austrian king to die is a little one but I can't do anything about it. Thus, my main issue is to fire the inheritance and my question is the following: If Duke Philippe III dies early in the game, before I am HRE emperor and the inheritance didn't fire. Is it worth it to keep going or shall I just restart since the MTTH will be now much longer? The status is that I won the 100 years war I got all my core back. I am about 3 years into the game.
I am trying to get the full inheritance as France. For now, having enough support from HRE electors is not an issue. Having the Austrian king to die is a little one but I can't do anything about it. Thus, my main issue is to fire the inheritance and my question is the following: If Duke Philippe III dies early in the game, before I am HRE emperor and the inheritance didn't fire. Is it worth it to keep going or shall I just restart since the MTTH will be now much longer? The status is that I won the 100 years war I got all my core back. I am about 3 years into the game.
It used to be like that but a few upgrades ago, the triggering f the event was changed. Now, Burgundy needs to be at war if they have a king (MTTH 500 !) or at peace when in a regency (MTTH 600). When they have a female ruler, the event won't fire.
I multiple war Burgundy as France in the first 50 years. 100% til call for peace, take 1-2 lowland provinces or vassalize one of the Dutch unions. Once truce is over, declare again, etc. This usually nets me the inheritance without sitting on infinite war exhaustion.
Yeah, it's a weird event. In my last game I just ignored Burgandy, beat up on England and vassalized Brittany. Still got it anyways. Given that it's random whether you push for it or not, I don't see it as a good return on investment.
Making it a disaster sounds like an excellent idea. Right now, the event can fire randomly in quite nonsensical situations (I've seen it happen when Burgundy was doing quite well and fighting a war at -10 warscore) or not fire at all when they are being kicked worse than Charles the Bold (especially when you try to force it as France or Austria MTTH combined with call for peace can be your enemy).
A disaster would add certainty, but I'm not sure if that is a bad thing. Of course, Charles the Bold's death at the battle of Nancy as immediate cause of Burgundy's disintegration was something of a historical accident, but the underlying causes were founded in the very structure of his realm - i.e. its being a patchwork of feudal holdings that were part of two different de iure entities and held together only by the person of the Duke.
How about a disaster that can happen only during the Age of Feudalism, starts ticking if Burgundy has no heir, a regent, a female ruler or legitimacy below a certain threshold (say 50?) and is advanced by:
- low warscore in a war against France, Switzerland or the Holy Roman Emperor
- high liberty desire of Burgundy's subjects
- high overextension
- extremely low legitimacy (below 30)?
If it is designed as an avoidable and transparent disaster, I can see no reason to exempt human Burgundy - the Burgundian inheritance should actually be something that a Burgundian player actively has to work against.
On a similar note, it might also be worth consideration to turn the "Portuguese crown" event - which at a MTTH of 2000 is even more luck-based than the Burgundian inheritance - into a disaster (with conditions that make sure that it is far from certain to happen and will only trigger under circumstances that are similar to what went down historically).
I made this suggestion regarding how France and Burgundy can have a better chain of events.
So as Emperor France, can I get the full inheritance, or will Castile get the HRE lands everytime?
I remember waiting sixteen years at 100% WS before it finally triggered, needless to say, I went through a lot of rebellions, 1.00+ Call to Peace, ect...
I get it quite often and most of the time I do nothing to them but recently I've been taking certain territory and then if the event happens I get most of the modern French borders and if not then I take more till I do.
If you are emperor France you should have a high "risk" of getting full-inheritance.
That´s kinda stupid to do, not only because you get the call for peace. But because MTTH doesn´t get lower past 75% WS, it does gets lower when king or heir is general (I assume it´s in field and not just in pool) so keeping it under 80% WS (think call for peace triggers after that or 90%) will actually help you even more. Since they will be able to build small armies that attach their king/heir and then you just wipe it from time to time before it gets too strong.
Can´t recall the math result, but doing that and having the most luck with circumstances you can get it down to around 90, at 100% WS it would be around 120.
I remember sitting on them for 22 years at 100%, first spending about 800 dip to lower WE then just killing rebels at speed 5(defensive + elan makes them a joke anyways). 1500 rolled around and no event fired, i threw a fit, took my inheritance by force and fought an HRE-wide coalition before quitting that run in anger.
It's just not good design (neither is IW; but at least that one's consistent).
It's just not good design (neither is IW; but at least that one's consistent).
Aaaaaaaand then it goes to Castile instead of you. That's what happened to me the first time.
Are you sure this is correct? I'm not sure that a Burgundian King or Heir being attached, or actually dying in battle, has any effect on the event chances at all. If it does then I don't see them on the wiki
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