Forcing me to name my long-time allies as Rivals?

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makaramus

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It's insta-click mutual hate. Once you become the only valid rival target for them, and the alliance breaks for any reason, you get automatically rivalled. The reason for breaking the alliance can be numerous, half of these reasons are UI or AI Logic bugs you can't account for.
thats wrong. AI is hard coded to not rival 100 trust allies EVER! no matter what as long as you are his ally he will tank power projection like you
 

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thats wrong. AI is hard coded to not rival 100 trust allies EVER!

Wow that was condescending. Like I don't know how diplomacy works. Yes, I'm aware. But I'm also aware that if you end up in a war against each other (which can happen for various reasons, not all predictable, as I stated before), trust drops immediately and thus you become a valid rival target.
 

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Wow that was condescending. Like I don't know how diplomacy works. Yes, I'm aware. But I'm also aware that if you end up in a war against each other (which can happen for various reasons, not all predictable, as I stated before), trust drops immediately and thus you become a valid rival target.
And how is that unrealistic? You've just been at war.
 

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The loss of trust is not unrealistic. What's unrealistic is to completely trust the war declaration screen on who will join and who won't and on which side.
Well again not unrealistic that it may be difficult knowing who might take which side. Ask Germany in ww1 about Italy for an example.
 

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Wow that was condescending. Like I don't know how diplomacy works. Yes, I'm aware. But I'm also aware that if you end up in a war against each other (which can happen for various reasons, not all predictable, as I stated before), trust drops immediately and thus you become a valid rival target.
then dont take side at opposite side of war? you are agreed to fight aganist them usually(I doubt ai joined war aganist you while himself has 100 trust... you need grave level amount of diplo rep for this :D)

also you fight with eachother your men killing his! IT MAKES GOD DAMN VERY SENSE