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Hey all.

Wondering on how this can be done. Basically, I've granted the Knights Hospitaller a Duchy in my Kingdom and vassalized them.

The problem is, the Grandmaster keeps switching the landed Duchy to his primary title after getting it. And changing the succession of his Duchy to something like Gavelkind, which messes with the Knights "titular duchy" as well. (Funny thing is, he has no kids, so I'm set to "inherit" the Knights! Which I wouldn't mind, but I hear it's buggy to do so.)

So is there a way to either:

A.) Force the Holy Order duchy to always be the primary title.

or

B.) Set the preference for the Holy Order title as primary over any other title.
 

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Also is it WAD that you can marry mercenary captains? It probably is but I just wanted to check because I'd never noticed it before the new patch.
 

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Actually. This is a bug. It is programmed to be primary only. (check landed_titles.txt) Though i have never honestly seen this work.

what make it primary only in landed_titles ?

seems that AI prefers de jure title over titular one as primary title.
 

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Example:

Code:
k_orthodox = {
	color={ 255 198 249 }
	color2={ 220 220 0 }
	
	capital = 496 # Constantinople
	
	title = "ECUMENICAL_PATRIARCH"
	foa = "ECUMENICAL_PATRIARCH_FOA"
	short_name = yes

	# Always exists
	landless = yes
	
	# Controls a religion
	controls_religion = orthodox
	
	# Cannot be held as a secondary title
	primary = yes
	
	# Regnal names
	male_names = {
		Alexios Antonios Athanasios Basileios Chariton Dionysios Dositheos Eustathios Eustratios Euthymios
		Gennadios Georgios Gerasimos Germanos Gregoras Ioannes Iosephos Isidoros Kallistos Konstantinos
		Kosmas Leon Leontios Loukas Makarios Manuel Maximos Metrophanes Michael Neophytos Nephon Niketas
		Nikolaos Nilos Matthaios Paulos Sergios Sisinnios Symeon Theodoros Theodosios Theodotos
	}
}
 

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what make it primary only in landed_titles ?

seems that AI prefers de jure title over titular one as primary title.

That's because prefered title is the one with most de jure provinces.

However there are ways round this.

One is "primary = yes" as posted by sleight of hand. Except this seems not to be working.

The other is used by Castille in vanilla.

Code:
k_castille = { #Spain
	color={ 243 209 23 }
	color2={ 200 80 10 }[I][U][B]
	dignity = 10 # Counted as having 10 more counties than it does[/B][/U][/I]
	
	capital = 199 # Burgos
	
	culture = castillan
	
	# Creation/usurpation trigger
	allow = {
		religion_group = christian
	}
	
	catholic = 250 # Crusade target weight
	muslim = 25 # Crusade target weight

I my mod I gave Kiev the special title of 'Grand Prince' and copied that bit from castille and now the AI always switches to Kiev if its the primary title (instead of Turov or Galich which it usually seems to use).
 

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Interesting -- I noticed the 'dignity =' line when I was updating my mod for 1.05 but had no idea what it meant. I may try that.
 

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Example:

Code:
k_orthodox = {
	color={ 255 198 249 }
	color2={ 220 220 0 }
	
	capital = 496 # Constantinople
	
	title = "ECUMENICAL_PATRIARCH"
	foa = "ECUMENICAL_PATRIARCH_FOA"
	short_name = yes

	# Always exists
	landless = yes
	
	# Controls a religion
	controls_religion = orthodox
	
	# Cannot be held as a secondary title
	primary = yes
	
	# Regnal names
	male_names = {
		Alexios Antonios Athanasios Basileios Chariton Dionysios Dositheos Eustathios Eustratios Euthymios
		Gennadios Georgios Gerasimos Germanos Gregoras Ioannes Iosephos Isidoros Kallistos Konstantinos
		Kosmas Leon Leontios Loukas Makarios Manuel Maximos Metrophanes Michael Neophytos Nephon Niketas
		Nikolaos Nilos Matthaios Paulos Sergios Sisinnios Symeon Theodoros Theodosios Theodotos
	}
}

ok thanks. I've only searched on holy orders that's why I didn't find it.

dignity thing was in Vanilla for Aquitaine too. now there is some more, I've noticed France f.e. have it now as it is cut into pieces.
there is a also a dignity value on special titles like consrt, regent etc...