For the love of God, please change the Regency mechanic.

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LibertyComrade

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So, my first MP game with AOW I'm playing Ethiopia. Gets a nice +25% chance of heir NI because there are basically no Christian nations willing to RM with Ethiopia once you gobble your small Coptic neighbors.

Yet...between 1575 and 1625 I've had 3 regencies lasting 7 years *or longer*. I had a 7 year regency, an 11 year regency, and a 17 year regency. All in a 50 year span. For those that don't want to do the napkin math that's 70% of the time for that span.

And, before you ask, I had neither my Monarch nor my Heirs designated as leaders at any point during this timeframe.

Now, my real issue with regency isn't the bad MP stats or the drain to legitimacy, that's fine and certainly manageable. No, my real complaints are two-fold:

1.) It's completely RNG. There's literally nothing I could have done to prevent it. At best I could have not gobbled my Coptic neighbors in the early game, though they are the logical choices for expansion early, just to keep them around for the RMs...but that really shouldn't be necessay when I have a whole NI completely devoted to overcoming that obstacle, giving me a better heir chance than most Christian nations have anyway.

2.) It's a hard-stop against DOWing. And, let's face it, 95% of the game is about warring and preparing for war.

It's really the 2nd issue that's the killer. It's just a NPE all around, you're essentially forced to twiddle your thumbs waiting for monthly income to build infrastructure while you wait for the RNG to pop for a new monarch or for your heir to grow some pubes. It's boring as **** and just a terrible mechanic from a game design point of view.

There are NUMEROUS ways to resolve this problem. My recommendations would include one or more of the following:
a.) Allowing DOWing but limit which CBs are valid during a regency.
b.) Allow DOWing but all CBs grant an additional stab hit (-1, -2, whatever).
c.) Allow DOWing but increase the rate at which War Exhaustion accrues.

It's not even historical either, so there's no real argument to be made there either, regents were definitely involved with the initiation of war throughout this period.

Honestly, to overcome it, I've considered reducing Pretender Rebels provinces' to increase the unrest just to foment a rebellion that I can accept their demands and put a new king on my thrown. When that seems like YOUR BEST OPTION as a player, to instigate rebellions in your own nation, you've made a really poor game design decision.
 

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How about option d.) Add a decision for the regent to kill the heir and take the throne for himself. Stabhit and low legitimacy, but instant adult ruler and resumption of normal affairs.

EDIT: Oh, and while we're fixing regecies, can they get names or something? Anything that fetches monarch name looks really stupid during a regency and besmirches your history feed forever.
 
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Make nice, nice with orthodox and you can have a royal marriage with them. L2p <3 :p

Nope, can't. Due to negative modifiers even if I have fully Improved Relations, +10 Proclaim Guarantee, +25 Sent Gift, and bonuses for things like enemy-of-enemy and same religion they will not offer a RM. There is not a Christian nation in the known world that will RM me in this game...I've checked...multiple times.

And, even if that weren't the case, it's still irrelevant. It improves my RNG chances but it doesn't remove the fact that just a poor RNG roll can essentially ruin your fun for decades in-game time.

In this particular game my brother was playing Byzantium, so he RM'ed me just to help my RNG chances :)
 

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Allow regencies to declare war. Give it a -1 (maybe even 2) stability hit for declaring war during a regency, possibly adjusted/removed based on CB type.
 

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Make nice, nice with orthodox and you can have a royal marriage with them. L2p <3 :p

If one really knows how to play, they'll know how irrelevant and pointless it is to make such a statement <3 :p.

You can have +3000% heir chance, and then your ruler that's a general will still live until he's 60, an event kills the heir, and you get a long regency. When you have huge heir chances you want to cycle the rulers so they die faster (IE anytime an heir is nearly of age) if the sole goal is to avoid regency, but the game screws you even then because your heir might have another heir relation that's the same age as him or close.

Regency and arbitrarily limited control of monarchies (likely they should be more random than republics, but not without choices/investments) remain one of the game's poor design aspects.
 

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I think a decent workaround to the regency mechanic would be to allow DoW on countries on which you already have claims and/or cores.
 

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I've been asking for this since 1.0 and it hasn't changed. Regencies longer than 10 years are the only thing I feel fine about save scumming (which is possible in Ironman, just tedious).
 

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Find me some monarch regents that started wars and maybe you can keep going on about poor design. Also note that it can happen to the ai, the only difference is the ai doesn't feel the need to make a forum post about how unfair it is that they are in a regency council and can't declare war.
 

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Find me some monarch regents that started wars and maybe you can keep going on about poor design. Also note that it can happen to the ai, the only difference is the ai doesn't feel the need to make a forum post about how unfair it is that they are in a regency council and can't declare war.

It isn't the game's purpose to entertain the AI.
 

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Find me some monarch regents that started wars and maybe you can keep going on about poor design.

A.) Good game design has nothing to do with historical versus ahistorical mechanics, necessarily.

B.) I had 35 years of regency in a 50 year period. Point out to me a case in history where anything even close to that occurred, and I'll start digging for regents that declared war.
 

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A.) Good game design has nothing to do with historical versus ahistorical mechanics, necessarily.

B.) I had 35 years of regency in a 50 year period. Point out to me a case in history where anything even close to that occurred, and I'll start digging for regents that declared war.

Ok. This one is for our fine Swedish game makers out there.

Sweden 1470-1520
Sten Sture the Elder (1470–1497, 1501–1503)
Svante Nilsson (1503–1512)
Erik Trolle 1512
Sten Sture the Younger (1512–1520)

A 50 year total with 46 years of regents. Give or take...
 

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Ok. This one is for our fine Swedish game makers out there.

Sweden 1470-1520
Sten Sture the Elder (1470–1497, 1501–1503)
Svante Nilsson (1503–1512)
Erik Trolle 1512
Sten Sture the Younger (1512–1520)

A 50 year total with 46 years of regents. Give or take...

They were regents-in-name because of the Kalmar Union. This is not the same as regents in the game space, which are the ruling head/council of an independent nation-state. The Kalmar Union, in game terms, is a Personal Union can't DOW anyway...but they could try to break the union and regain independence. An independent nation-state has no direct access to regain the ability to DOW...which essentially is playing the game.
 

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Ok. This one is for our fine Swedish game makers out there.

Sweden 1470-1520
Sten Sture the Elder (1470–1497, 1501–1503)
Svante Nilsson (1503–1512)
Erik Trolle 1512
Sten Sture the Younger (1512–1520)

A 50 year total with 46 years of regents. Give or take...
That also features a 27 year regency, which doesn't exactly work in-game, as regencies are functionally capped at 15 years due to the heir ascending the throne at age 15, and even if the heir dies, it should trigger an interregnum followed by a noble from a random dynasty taking the throne.

In game, the rule of Sten Sture the Elder is represented as a Noble Republic, so he can declare war. Arvid Trolle (1501) is also represented as such. All of them are 1/1/1.

Erik Trolle, Svante Nilsson, and Sten Sture the Younger are all not represented in-game, and instead, Sweden is under a Personal Union with Denmark during their tenures, and thus, while they can't declare wars on just any nation, Sweden can still declare at least one war - independence. During that entire 50 year period, Sweden is consistently able to declare war on at least one nation.
 

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They were regents-in-name because of the Kalmar Union. This is not the same as regents in the game space, which are the ruling head/council of an independent nation-state. The Kalmar Union, in game terms, is a Personal Union can't DOW anyway...but they could try to break the union and regain independence. An independent nation-state has no direct access to regain the ability to DOW...which essentially is playing the game.

Exactly they couldn't declare war. And to conclude myself I will say that if you are in a regency council you have no authorized way to declare war. However in game you are still allowed to intervene and join wars. During this time you should use the mechanics given to you to keep yourself busy. Send out warnings to every nation out there, proclaim guarantee to your hearts content, ally with your friend in mp, basically keep busy. <3
 

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Exactly they couldn't declare war. And to conclude myself I will say that if you are in a regency council you have no authorized way to declare war. However in game you are still allowed to intervene and join wars. During this time you should use the mechanics given to you to keep yourself busy. Send out warnings to every nation out there, proclaim guarantee to your hearts content, ally with your friend in mp, basically keep busy. <3
In-game, those who are represented can declare war because they're princes of a Noble Republic, rather than regency councils.

Those who can't DoW aren't able to do so for a different reason - because during their tenure, Sweden is a subject nation. Though at basically any time, it still can declare an independence war against Denmark.
 

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In-game, those who are represented can declare war because they're princes of a Noble Republic, rather than regency councils.

Those who can't DoW aren't able to do so for a different reason - because during their tenure, Sweden is a subject nation. Though at basically any time, it still can declare an independence war against Denmark.

I was speaking of real history not the dates in the game, and yeah I gave Kalmar Union regents for Sweden before there independence. I did what the op asked, and pretty much gave him what I asked. Irony. Still, you wouldn't find those regents declaring a war on another nation.
 

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I would say keep the No DOW, but allow a select few types of war to be waged.