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Well it aint the best really.
Denmark and Sweden are surprisingly well balanced despite the event advantages that Sweden gets.
In Tsunami they are pretty much equal.
Re: hmm
The "Ugric" culture was quite marginal in Denmark, while it was not in Sweden...
The "Ugric" culture was quite marginal in Denmark, while it was not in Sweden...
Well, if we are gonna open a can of worms and talk cultures, Norway should get ugric culture as well, since they have two provinces from the start. Also, historically, taxes were collected in Finnmark, and even a fort errected there to stop the russians.
Well, we can't have a wrong basis for handing out/removing cultures. France, England, Spain etc can no longer gain Dutch culture, that is good. But on the same note, Sweden should no longer be able to gain Baltic culture. Or if Denmark were to get German culture, Norway should get ugric culture, to reflect that they didn't "lose" any income in those provinces just because there were sami people there.
IMHO the influence on game balance from the event giving Sweden a chance to gain baltic culture is marginal at most.
For reference here are the Baltic culture provinces:
Kurland, 7 tax, 4 manpower, CoT.
Livland, 6 tax, 5 manpower.
Plus Memel and Prussia (most of the time).
The impact is marginal, but the same can be said about a Sweden without Baltic culture...
yeah, and it dosen't effect the best province there (Kurland) because I do'nt think tarriffs get effected by the 30% malus due to culture. It you want to really hamper the Sweedes, lower their manpower so they can't go around conquering the WORLD! (How can you take over Russia if you've only got 25,000 to their 250,000?)
Ah! 
So there are four, and not two, baltic culture provinces.
I made a list a little while back to guide me in playing Sweden and it appears I made quite a mistake there. Thanks for the correction!
So there are four, and not two, baltic culture provinces.
I made a list a little while back to guide me in playing Sweden and it appears I made quite a mistake there. Thanks for the correction!
Sweden is actually just about right on average... sometimes collapses a bit, sometimes does better than it did. The problem is that Russia can be expected to perform worse than it did historically, and that often leaves Sweden with an easily conquered Russian backyard. It doesn't mean that Sweden is too strong; if Russia had been that weak in real history, we would've had quite a different map today...
The reason I think Sweden shouldn't get Baltic culture is rather that I can't think of any very good reason for why Sweden should get it. The effect on Sweden's performance will be marginal, since the provinces are so few and also not conquered by Sweden all the time.
I must confirm this point. I have never seen Sweden doing so incredibly well (and I have my share of completed GCs) as I have seen France (even if they never ever throw the English from France!) and Austria (ok, in my Spain AAR Austria performed horribly, but they never inherited Burgundy / Hungary / Bohemia!), for example. I rather think their usual success is rather more a consequence of Russian AI weakness rather than any other thing.
Yep, that's right.
Sweden does not have any more right to ugric culture than Denmark, Livonic Order, Teutonic order, Poland or Russia.
But Danish culture in the middle ages and reneissance period was rather more german-like than scandinavian.
I vote for yes german culture to denmark.
Historically Denmark had "German" culture. So had Sweden. The Early Modern Scandinavian states were basically bilingual.
In game terms the Danish problem is that it only has two geographically contiguous provinces worth anything. It's very easy for other countries to invade Jutland (historically correct) and reduce Denmark to nothing. Skåne is in essence an island.
One way of easing ife for Denmark is to make the Sound crossable like the Straits of Messina or the crossings in the Ionian Sea.
But Denmark ought to have German culture.
In game terms the Danish problem is that it only has two geographically contiguous provinces worth anything. It's very easy for other countries to invade Jutland (historically correct) and reduce Denmark to nothing. Skåne is in essence an island.
One way of easing ife for Denmark is to make the Sound crossable like the Straits of Messina or the crossings in the Ionian Sea.
But Denmark ought to have German culture.
I have supported this before, and I'll support it again.
German culture to Denmark.
German culture to Denmark.
Re: hmm
well, it's more EEP topic, but...
historicaly Danish Kingdom owned Estonia and sold it to germans 1343. no reason for shield then. But Livonic war (mid-16th Century) actually brought danes back to the region and they owned some parts of land there. Accordingly should Sweden get national province shield on Estonia starting from 1570 appr. Russia from 1553. And Poland on Livonia starting from the same period. Another thing is that today's Finland has also ugric culture and swedes really had some rights there.
well, it's more EEP topic, but...
historicaly Danish Kingdom owned Estonia and sold it to germans 1343. no reason for shield then. But Livonic war (mid-16th Century) actually brought danes back to the region and they owned some parts of land there. Accordingly should Sweden get national province shield on Estonia starting from 1570 appr. Russia from 1553. And Poland on Livonia starting from the same period. Another thing is that today's Finland has also ugric culture and swedes really had some rights there.
But in most 17th, 18th century western europe countries the educated and the nobles spoke French, nor reason to give them French culture.
Basicly cultures are a can of worms as already said and should be altered as little as possible. The only alteration might be to tone down the cultures given to countries.